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#71
06-09-2005, 12:30 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
curtains do you really think this is an autocall or an autocall because nick knows its you pushing?, sorry if this was already addressed i didnt read rest of thread
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#72
06-09-2005, 12:36 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
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curtains do you really think this is an autocall or an autocall because nick knows its you pushing?, sorry if this was already addressed i didnt read rest of thread [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure we said it was a fold at the $55s, so basically it's only a call because we can put curtains on basically any two.
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#74
06-09-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
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I believe it's correct because its me. From a purely theoretical standpoint I suspect it should be correct if your opponents are playing optimally. [/ QUOTE ] If my opponents are playing optimally I think I'll move down to the $55s where I know they don't. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#76
09-02-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
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Level of thinking: Nick knows curtains will be stealing with a huge range here. So he should call. Curtains knows that nick knows he will be stealing with a huge range here, so he tightens up his pushing standards. In turn, nick knows this and recongizes he needs a much higher calling requirement. Curtains knows this and goes back to loose pushing standards. It could go on forever.... [/ QUOTE ] This can't go on forever. If you screw around with SnG Power Tools a little here, you'll find that the two players actually have perfect plays. Ie, there's a pushing range that button can have that is optimal even after BB adjusts.
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#77
09-02-2005, 12:37 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
Important to clarify that this call is just about as bad as it gets on the bubble (except, of course, calling with worse hands, which would be worse).
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#78
09-02-2005, 12:54 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
against someone who pushes a wide range, it is +ev to call with a2o
a few have argued some good points against calling, but there are counter-arguments to those points...as well as one that hasn't been brought up yet, which is the extra ev u earn when u win the hand and have that large stack...u can then steal with impunity and have a great chance at 1st place
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#79
09-02-2005, 12:54 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
no, this is a good call if u know ur opp is pushing a loose range
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#80
09-02-2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: The kind of calls you need to make at the $215s....
People get so bent out of shape about close calls/folds/pushes
I see plain clear evidence that makes this a call or a fold. Either work based on how you play the game from here on out. Knowing your weaknesses and strengths in your own game with pure honesty will give you the best answer. People have different games and you must play accordingly. If you weild a big stack well and get nervous in level 6-7 with 7-8 players left then call. If you are very good with pushes and have a good grasp on your FE at this table then fold. If you are a poker god than folding is probably better. I think OP made his point because a lot of people would indeed consider this an insta fold. This can still be a fold, but there is merit in calling. <font color="white">just bad advice from a strugling 10+1 player that wishes he wasn't a moron </font>
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