Am I truly a strategy and/or etiquette idiot?

[js13_tps]

doesn't HOH 2 say the correct play is to check it down and eliminate the short stack? It's a real money move .vs fighting with the chip leader over T$535. What if cable had JT?

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[hyde]

The only flaw I found in your situation was responding to the two idiots.

Maybe.....
you are both jerks and ignorant. If I explained you would be less ignorant, but still jerks. I prefer that you remain ignorant.

[Wes ManTooth]

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doesn't HOH 2 say the correct play is to check it down and eliminate the short stack? It's a real money move .vs fighting with the chip leader over T$535. What if cable had JT?

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Not necessarily. If you have a very strong hand then you should bet especially on the flop to push out an opponent that may have draws. Like for example two diamonds hit this flop, if you checked it down and another diamond hit the turn and the again on the river and opponent cablevision had the 5d your losing a back door flush draw to him. In this case the Hero flopped a top pair top kicker a very strong hand in this situation he should definitely bet out. If the Hero had a marginal hand then it is better to check it down with cablevision.

[Phill S]

I think checking it down is very wrong, thats almost as bad as bluffing a dry side pot. You bet because whilst the EV of the all in guy increases, yours also does so. 3rd guy could plausaby to hit trips on the river and could you get away if he does?

Free cards are never good when you actually have a bit of a hand.

Also, i agree with open pushing this preflop.

Phill

[pokerlaw]

THis is completely fine w/ me. I *might* have bet 1/2 my stack on the flop and pushed the rest on the turn, but not betting this flop is pretty bad IMO (on a rainbow K flop btw, I might even bet the minimum to get a caller, then push the turn)

why let the others catch up to you?

[pokerlaw]

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doesn't HOH 2 say the correct play is to check it down and eliminate the short stack?

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Harrington was referring to the fact that you want to eliminate the short stack, so you want to check it down UNTIL you are confident that you can beat the shortie. w/ this flop, i'll be pretty friggen confident my AK is good. So, now that you have (most likely) the winning hand, it is time to either value-bet or make the draws pay to catch up to you.

For example, if hero had a mid pok pair that didn't set, I could see checking down as a better play, but not w/ this flop...

[schwza]

here's how my conversation would have gone:

yepikim: idiot
cablevision: I agree
Hero: yepikim, i just reported you

[ChuckyB]

I hate that "check it down" crap. If I've got the better hand, someone's going to pay me off for it...regardless of if someone's all-in or not. I'm happy to take advantage of people who assume we're going to check it down, so I can hit my card on the river. Etiquette-wise your play was fine.

And there's nothing I hate more than yap from people who aren't in the hand.

[The Don]

This is a clear bet. I do, however, hate morons who BLUFF into dry sidepots though. They have cost me quite a few ITMs over the past few weeks.

[wulfheir]

Good push.

When I get harrassed there, I just say I learned watching TV, then shut off chat.

edit: What's even funnier about this, is that they harrassed you after the shorty was eliminated. It's not like he even won.