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Old 07-14-2005, 03:49 AM
benfranklin benfranklin is offline
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More details from Card Player

Some of the details are unclear, but about fifteen minutes ago at the Featured Table, one of the female dealers was quietly crying as she was replaced by the next dealer. Upon further investigation, one of the players at the final table was apparently being very critical of every mistake. According to Greg Raymer, it wasn't the content of what he was saying, but how he was saying it -- every criticism sounded like a spit in the face. If you took a transcript of what he said, it wouldn't appear to be very bad. But if you had to listen to it ...


It's a touchy situation, and the crowd applauded her in support as she left the table. Soon after, Tournament Director Johnny Grooms approaches the table to address the situation. Before he gets a chance to speak, the player leaves the table and goes over to say something to the dealer. I couldn't hear what they were saying, but their body language and everything else implies that he apologized to her.


When he returned to the table, Johnny Grooms had a brief, quiet discussion about respecting the dealers.


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F this cry baby s_hit. He was probably saying something sarcastic like "awe, is hold 'em too complicated for you." No, he shouldn't have said anything... but this wouldn't even be an issue with 99% of male dealers. Any guy would just roll his eyes at comments like that... but the highly insecure chicks have to run off crying and make a big scene. Pfft.

Only in a world where feminine mellodrama is tolerated and supported by the utpmost PC of people would a situation involving a player making comments that "if you read them, wouldn't be very bad" a "touchy situation."

Yeah, I am sure the tone of his voice while saying otherwise unthreatening words was just bananas.

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Thank you for that insightful, informative post about an event of which you obviously have zero knowledge. Comments from people who were there, even at the table, indicated that the player in question was a jerk. Glad you could clear this up with the straight dope.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:50 AM
mustardinmyhair mustardinmyhair is offline
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Default Re: Latest Chip Counts

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im not saying ivey's not great, he seems to be. but if he wins i think there's a case to be made that it's fixed. he would be the best possible champion for our sport in terms of growth, tv ad revenue, further mainstreaming of poker, etc, etc, etc. flame away.

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this is obviously a joke, because there's no way someone with 4400 posts could say something so stupid

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This was exactly what I was thinking. How can someone with
that many posts say something so completely moronic?
Do you have any proof that there's anything illegal going on? Why,
if one of the best Poker players on the planet wins the ME,
would you think that there'd be "a case to be made that it's fixed..."?
Was there a case to be made that the NBA finals were fixed when
Jordan's Bulls won all those
championships? Or Magic and the Lakers? Or, Sweet Galloping
Christ, when any athlete who was the best in their
field captured the ultimate prize? It may just be that Ivey's
doing so well because he's a incredible frickin' poker player. No funny business needed
when you're the best on the planet.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:57 AM
ziggy_m ziggy_m is offline
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Nobody could ever possibly ever be as good as Ivey.

I call Divine Intervention.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:05 AM
mustardinmyhair mustardinmyhair is offline
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Wow, after waking up this morning and reading this thread I am quite depressed. I am simply unable to believe the amount of straightfoward racism here. Yes, Tiffany appears to be something of a tool, and stalling tactics are a problem in poker, but there are an awful lot of straightforwardly, unapologetically racist/sexist posters in this thread, and also a number of posters that I have respected in the past that have made some extremely unfortunate comments, and a number of people that I have simply lost all respect for. As in any public forum, I'm accustomed to seeing minor amounts of ingorance, but this is just depressing. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Hmmm.......everyone is praising Phil Ivey who's an incredible poker player,
very professional, and just happens to be black.
Everyone's giving Tiffany crap because she's a horrible poker player
and seems to be "something of a tool", as you say, and just happens to be black.
But when posters dump on Tiffany they're "racist" and "sexist"
and when they praise Phil Ivey you seem to gloss over thier comments.
Interesting...
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:35 AM
Sheriff Fatman Sheriff Fatman is offline
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"Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oy, Oy, Oy! Aussie... OY!"

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Especially considering shouting "Oy, Oy, Oy" (or "Oi, Oi, Oi" if you want to get technical) is popular amoung neo-nazi skinhead bands.

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I think it's a reference to the BBC's "The Office."

Gareth, when talking to his friend Auggie from University, would say "Auggie, Auggie, Auggie...oy, oy, oy" a couple of times in a row.

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The Oggy, Oggy, Oggy song (or however its spelt) pre-dates my childhood, although I'm not sure where it originates from. I remember singing it on Cub Scout camps!!!

The Aussie version has also been sung for years, normally at cricket matches once a few cans of Fosters have been sunk (i.e. about 11.05am!). Given that Australia have dominated international cricket for too many years, its a fairly painful song for any Englishman to hear!!!

Sheriff
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:45 AM
popniklas popniklas is offline
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Default Re: 15 minute hand

Racism? Probably not, although I haven't read the latest posts.

Sexism? Yes, definitely. No one would make post after post about how ugly a male player is.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:50 AM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, race or gender has nothing to do with it.

Quit the stupid posts already please.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:00 AM
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Wow, after waking up this morning and reading this thread I am quite depressed. I am simply unable to believe the amount of straightfoward racism here. Yes, Tiffany appears to be something of a tool, and stalling tactics are a problem in poker, but there are an awful lot of straightforwardly, unapologetically racist/sexist posters in this thread, and also a number of posters that I have respected in the past that have made some extremely unfortunate comments, and a number of people that I have simply lost all respect for. As in any public forum, I'm accustomed to seeing minor amounts of ingorance, but this is just depressing. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Hmmm.......everyone is praising Phil Ivey who's an incredible poker player,
very professional, and just happens to be black.
Everyone's giving Tiffany crap because she's a horrible poker player
and seems to be "something of a tool", as you say, and just happens to be black.
But when posters dump on Tiffany they're "racist" and "sexist"
and when they praise Phil Ivey you seem to gloss over thier comments.
Interesting...

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I'm sorry, have you read this thread, are you trolling, or what?

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She looks like she was hit with a clock.

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Oh no, the world's most annoying person and the woman who thinks tournament poker is worse than being a SLAVE on a plantation would be insulted.

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Tiffany Williamson is the Condoleeza Rice of poker.

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Wow, I couldn't imagine affirmative action was ANY part of her decision (sic) to get in to either.

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I think it is a classy move by Black. It is safe to say that there is at least one classy Black left in the tourny....

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You think this is cute? You think this is funny?
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:27 AM
ziggy_m ziggy_m is offline
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WRONG!

She's the Oprah Winfrey of poker.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:27 AM
Klepton Klepton is offline
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shut up

this lady stalls, is a complete amateur, and is very annoying
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