Is there a decent book on Internet Poker?

[mattyG]

Any agreement as to which book is best for strictly internet poker?There are a gazillion on live poker, but would appreciate help on internet play thank you

[TStoneMBD]

what are you looking for? strategy or tips on sites and bonuses and stuff? if youre looking for strategy then ed millers small stakes book is probably best. if youre looking for tips on internet sites/bonuses and such through books, youre looking in the wrong place.

[busguy]

If you single table then Miller's book is probably the best. If you multitable (or are NOT a fairly solid player already) you will probably experience the full impact of variance if you strictly follow his guidelines. If your are already an experienced internet player and can take bits and pieces from his book and then adapt it to your own game, this would be by far the best book for you. His book applies to the internet game but was written from a B&M prespective in my opinion.

If you are fairly new to poker or internet poker specifically I would recommend Mathew Hilger's book. It was written a couple of years ago, but was written specifically for the internet game. IMHO it sort of fits in between Lee Jone's book and Miller's book in terms of strategy etc.

my 2 cents

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[itsmarty]

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If you single table then Miller's book is probably the best. If you multitable (or are NOT a fairly solid player already) you will probably experience the full impact of variance if you strictly follow his guidelines.

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I agree that you have to be a solid player to properly apply SSHE, but are you trying to say that optimal play changes when you multitable?

Martin

[mattyG]

thank you all for the feedback...I am looking for strategy specific to online play. I usually play the 6 max 5/10 tables and was interested in some more strategy. Is Ed Millers book available at most bookstores ?

[itsmarty]

Yes, or through this site: http://www.twoplustwo.com/books.html Look for Small Stakes Holdem, Winning Big with Expert Play by Ed Miller, Sklansky, and Malmuth.

It's also a good idea to check out the small stakes forum here.

Martin

[busguy]

Yes and no.

I think I was saying abut 8 different things in that sentence,

For me, Miller's take is a bit on the loose side (but then again I don't chase down AA with 54 suited like you - lol) because as I said it is my opinion that Miller wrote the book from a B&amp;M perspective where you generally play a fair bit looser to start with.

As you well know (but the op may not) if you multitable and play as many hands as you would in a live game you will get killed (or at the very least have extreme swings).

So what I was trying to say was that regardless of experience, if you only played one table at a time you would probably be fine strictly following Miller's guidelines.

If you multitable however, and did not for the most part stick to "your" game style, while making some small (or not so small) adjustments (taken from Miller's book) that you would likely experience the dark side of variance so to speak.

not sure that was any clearer, but . . .

busguy

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As you well know (but the op may not) if you multitable and play as many hands as you would in a live game you will get killed (or at the very least have extreme swings).

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This is just plain silly. Multi-tabling does not increase your variance. It only changes your EV to the extent that the quality of your play is degraded by spreading your attention over more tables. The only thing that multi-tabling does, assuming that your strategy doesn't change, is increase the number of hands you play per hour. So multi-tabling will not increase the size of your swings. It will just cause them to occur over a much shorter time span. Again, this is assuming that the quality of your play doesn't change. In practice, multi-tabling is likely to decrease your EV per hand somewhat, because it reduces your ability to get good reads on opponents and may cause you to make more errors.

[busguy]

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As you well know (but the op may not) if you multitable and play as many hands as you would in a live game you will get killed (or at the very least have extreme swings).

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This is just plain silly.

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I love it when people don't even take the time to READ what has been said. I did not say that multitabling increases your variance. I said that if you play on the internet like you play in a B&amp;M you will get killed. If you want to use a statistics term, when I said your swings could increase that would be refering to the "range" not variance.

When I'm at a Casino I probably only get dealt 30-40 hands per hour. My flop percentage is probably 30-35% because if it wasn't I would be falling asleep. If my flop percentage online was 30-35% I would likely be getting killed. When you are getting dealt 70-80 hands per table per hour you can afford to (and must) play tighter. My online flop percentage would be less than 20% and that is 3-4 tabling.

So to be clear . . . it is my belief that if your flop percentage online is consistantly (always) above 35% . . . you will lose. If you multi-table and your flop percentage is consistantly (always) above 35% you will lose a lot more.

Does this work for you now ??


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what are you looking for? strategy or tips on sites and bonuses and stuff? if youre looking for strategy then ed millers small stakes book is probably best. if youre looking for tips on internet sites/bonuses and such through books, youre looking in the wrong place.

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BTW, happy birthday!