Am I Beat? (Part 2) $100+9

Jman28 · #1 03-16-2005, 05:23 AM

This one's a little weirder. I couldn't figure out what his bets meant. I assume most of you will dislike my flop call and would lay down the turn. Oh, and my limp UTG maybe.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter

CO (t2300)
Button (t957)
SB (t975)
BB (t890)
Hero (t1970)
UTG+1 (t975)
MP1 (t985)
MP2 (t948)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls t15, 3 folds, CO calls t15, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t52.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t70, CO folds, BB raises to t200, Hero calls t130.

Turn: (t452.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
 BB bets 670 (all-in) , Hero...

curtains · #2 03-16-2005, 05:26 AM

I raise this preflop but ok limping is not ridiculous. On the flop I would definitely reraise allin. Also I wouldn't overbet the pot so much on the flop.

btw raise preflop with JJ and these postflop decisions sometimes get a lot easier!

Jman28 · #3 03-16-2005, 05:31 AM

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On the flop I would definitely reraise allin.

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It's that easy of a push?

Thanks for the advice.

-Jman28

curtains · #4 03-16-2005, 05:34 AM

No it's not that easy really. I don't know really, I rarely get into this situation with JJ because I almost never limp with it preflop in sit and go's. I would move allin here however.

btw considering that you have a big stack, makes me a lot MORE likely to raise preflop.

Ryan527h · #5 03-16-2005, 07:48 AM

Even though you were in very early position I think you shouldn'tve limped. Than pushed on the flop.

raptor517 · #6 03-16-2005, 08:23 AM

once again, curtains whacks it on the head. i dont mind the limp with JJ preflop, i make this play on occasion. however, it IS a bit tougher to play post flop without knowing where you are at. since you are a bigstack, raising is probably the preferred method. as for getting your chips in post flop, you have to push when he raises you. he raises there with a 10, very likely. get your chips in. on the turn, i really dont see any way you can fold. holla

Apathy · #7 03-16-2005, 11:00 AM

Also remember that even though it is only level 1, it is 8 handed making JJ that much of a bigger hand so raise it up.

adanthar · #8 03-16-2005, 01:53 PM

See, not only do you limp but now you overbet the pot, making the BB frisky with both a lone T and 2 pair.

Personally, having limped, I'd bet 50 and fold to the CR but this would never come up because I don't limp here. Having limped and basically told myself 'hey, I'm playing to flop a set and I'll go ahead and let BB keep his two completely random cards', when he tells you his random cards hit I go ahead and fold.