barfing @ 2k PL - Page 2

riverboatking · #11 12-26-2005, 05:20 AM

ok so everyone seems really concerned with what villian has, but no one is asking the equally important question:
what do you think villian puts you on?
the answer to this question will make your situation much more clearly defined.

so, how have you been playing, what is your table image...what does your raise here signify to the other players.

obviously if you have been playing fast then it is almost impossible to fold...however if you've been playing fairly straightfoward its a much easier fold.

xorbie · #12 12-26-2005, 06:25 AM

My main concern is that we might not be racing at all, and that villain can put in this 3rd raise with a holding like Ax[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I still think a fold is probably right.

ahnuld · #13 12-26-2005, 12:21 PM

Id fold just becuase there are so many draws that this looks like a push or fold situation and pushing this deep with bottom two sucks.

#14 12-26-2005, 12:58 PM

This looks like a spot where if you don't fold you will be in a hardcore reverse implied odds situation, it looks like a fold to me.

Even if he had air 75% of the time and a set 25% of the time for example, a fold can still be correct (if he bluffs with the right frequencies)

And I think the fact that he might have a draw makes things worse for you

etizzle · #15 12-26-2005, 01:15 PM

Since this guy had sat down I believe I had been playing pretty straightforwardly. I had been caught on a few bluffs earlier in the day but I dont think he was at the table (maybe he was though and I just didnt notice for some reason).

Yeti · #16 12-26-2005, 02:18 PM

I hate folding, and I would happily toss this.

Equal · #17 12-26-2005, 02:54 PM

The SB folds to Pandora's re-raise I assume?

flawless_victory · #18 12-26-2005, 03:01 PM

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I hate folding, and I would happily toss this.

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even yeti would fold, this is an easy effing fold.

etizzle · #19 12-26-2005, 03:17 PM

what if i told you he was 26/15/2.1?

also, what if you had seen him play this had (I missed it)?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Hero ($2000)
UTG+1 ($2279)
Pandora ($4530)
MP1 ($2632.50)
MP2 ($1970)
MP3 ($1980)
CO ($2736)
Button ($773.50)
SB ($2698.50)
BB ($2246)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
2 folds, Pandora raises to $70, 4 folds, Button calls $70, 1 fold, BB calls $50.

Flop: ($220) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $150, Pandora raises to $667, Button folds, BB calls $2026 (All-In),Pandora calls $1509.

Turn: ($4572) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4572) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $4572

Results in white below:
BB shows K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Pandora shows K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

creedofhubris · #20 12-26-2005, 11:12 PM

If I'd seen that KJ hand, I would call his flop raise, and plan to get it allin on a safe turn, folding if a heart or jack dropped.