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11-27-2005, 05:00 AM
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Re: Dealer says \"check\" but the player never checked
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Dealer messes up. [/ QUOTE ] This is absolutely the dealer's fault. "Player A" sat silently, and was as motionless as a cigar store Indian. The dealer, for reasons only he knows, decided to announce "check". Probably, a player at another table BEHIND Player A checked, prompting the dealer's erroneous announcement. Or perhaps the dealer was watching a hockey game on tv, and reacted audibly to a solid bodycheck. "CHECK!!!" I can't think of any other reason why a dealer would announce "check". But one thing is for sure, there is no way that Player A absent-mindedly moved his hand while his brain was focused on trying to decide how much to bet on the end. Later, when the out-of-turn bet was allowed to stand, that was also entirely the dealer's fault. "Player B" has no obligation to protect his hand, or his action. He is blameless. 
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#12
11-27-2005, 05:02 AM
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Re: Dealer says \"check\" but the player never checked
Dude, shut up. The gimick account has already lost the humor that didn't exist when you created it. Yada yada yada dealers fault yada yada. Man, you really need a life to just sit there creating useless posts such as the first 3 you made.
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11-27-2005, 05:10 AM
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Re: Dealer says \"check\" but the player never checked
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[ QUOTE ] Dealer messes up. [/ QUOTE ] This is absolutely the dealer's fault. "Player A" sat silently, and was as motionless as a cigar store Indian. The dealer, for reasons only he knows, decided to announce "check". Probably, a player at another table BEHIND Player A checked, prompting the dealer's erroneous announcement. Or perhaps the dealer was watching a hockey game on tv, and reacted audibly to a solid bodycheck. "CHECK!!!" I can't think of any other reason why a dealer would announce "check". But one thing is for sure, there is no way that Player A absent-mindedly moved his hand while his brain was focused on trying to decide how much to bet on the end. Later, when the out-of-turn bet was allowed to stand, that was also entirely the dealer's fault. "Player B" has no obligation to protect his hand, or his action. He is blameless. [/ QUOTE ] Retard. Moderator? Do you have to let this guy's posts stay up on the forum? These post kind of taint good advice 2+2 is famous for.
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#15
11-28-2005, 05:09 AM
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Re: Dealer says \"check\" but the player never checked
I'd be happy he gave you some of your money back. Whether he said check or not, it is sort of a mute point, you bet your hand, as you would be expected to do with a flush, and he took his option to raise. If anything, it was he who was unfairly punished by not being allowed to bet his flush, which he most certainly would do, but was lucky that you also had a hand which you felt worth of betting.
The fact that he was nice enough to give you some of your bet back confirms what you said about him being a nice, honest player. One time a player pulled an angle shot on me, insisting that I shouldnt be allowed to bet because I had tapped the table. Yet, the action was on this player, and I was waiting for her to act. She checked, and then insisted that I shouldnt be allowed to bet, because I was lightly tapping the table while she was contemplating her decision. The dealer was clueless to what she was doing (she was obviously on the come and wanted a free card)and didnt allow me to bet. Luckily, I boated on the river, but I was still angry at both her tactics and the dealer's ignorance. The other night at the casino I moved away from the button 2 seats across one player and the dealer insisted, incorrectly, that I had to post. I asked whether or not the casino had a "two live player rule", and she replied "yes, but if you move away from the button you still have to post." This is obviously contradictory. A casino that rules that you have to post if you move away from the button, no matter how many seats, obviously does not have a "two player" rule. Moving closer to the blind does not matter. I should have called the floor, but I posted not to cause any fuss, as the table was getting angered at me. I later asked the floor about the dealer's ruling and was informed the dealer was in fact wrong, and I was in fact correct. However, having not called the floor, there was nothing they were willing to do about it. In conclusion, when a dealer makes a questionable call at the table, never argue, just call the floor immediately. Many dealers make enough mistakes and the only way the situation is going to be handled fairly is to get the floor. Do not feel embarassed or that you may be offending the dealer. It is your money at stake. -J
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