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#12
11-09-2005, 01:40 AM
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Re: Commerce 10/20. Awkward AA OOP.
i like C/R all-in on turn.
heres why. if you push it gives villian the chance to get away from hands that are beat (while he may not...it gives him the oppertunity)...however if you check he may very well push with hands he might have thought about folding had you pushed. alot of times in these games people will call the flop bet in order to see if its a contiuation bet and then if you fire again are more likely to give you credit for a real hand. the caveat to this is if this guy likes to chase his draws but is a passive player...if that is the case then push the turn. 
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#14
11-09-2005, 05:08 AM
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Re: Commerce 10/20. Awkward AA OOP.
Wish there was more of a read on villain. 20 minutes isn't much time though. Is there any reason for him to not give credit to your PF reraise?
Think he has QQ here the large majority of the time. For me this would be a pretty straight forward bet enough on the turn so that he will call and also pot commit himself to calling the rest on the river.
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#15
11-09-2005, 05:16 AM
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Re: Commerce 10/20. Awkward AA OOP.
Right - So that was half of my thinking. The other half was that I was willing to lose to AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] if a diamond hit the turn, but that I was unwilling to give QQ w a diamond the chance to get there on the river - So I decided I would check a non diamond turn - and hope to c/r all in, or bet near pot if a diamond fell.
Too much thinking?
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#17
11-09-2005, 06:13 AM
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Re: Commerce 10/20. Awkward AA OOP.
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Elaborate? [/ QUOTE ] uh-huh....(I wasn't being facetious LA [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]).....basically, look at the stack sizes, player descriptions, and size of the pot on the flop in the original post - I like a larger raise, a smaller raise, or a smooth call preflop all better than what LA actually did..... elaboration: both hero and villain were playing tight and un-tricky, so LA's reraise gives away his hand but still prices villain in for a flop, possibly lets him off the hook with smaller overpairs, and creates a very awkward pot size.....after hero's bet on the flop, even if villain auto-went-all-in and hero was just SURE his aces were no good, can LA fold getting better than 2 to 1 in a $5k pot knowing there's some chance villain has KK or AKs?.....
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#18
11-09-2005, 06:28 AM
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Re: Commerce 10/20. Awkward AA OOP.
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Right - So that was half of my thinking. The other half was that I was willing to lose to AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] if a diamond hit the turn, but that I was unwilling to give QQ w a diamond the chance to get there on the river - So I decided I would check a non diamond turn - and hope to c/r all in, or bet near pot if a diamond fell. Too much thinking? [/ QUOTE ] Your line looks good to little ol me. Note that if villian checks behind on the turn (assuming your blank comes) with the range of hands you put him on it doesn't look like that big a disaster. The only action killing river cards are aces and kings along with the cards that make him a set (not action killing but lapoker17 killing). As an aside, won all ten pots I played today in my favorite 5/10 blind NL game. Do you think I should loosen up? ~ Rick
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#19
11-09-2005, 04:52 PM
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Re: Commerce 10/20. Awkward AA OOP.
I actually thought you were being serious at first, then decided you were joking...
By the time we got to the turn I was already wishing he was deeper or shallower. His stack made it weird. A guy sitting next to me - who I generally think of as a moron - told me he hated my PF raise as well - he said he would've made it $500.
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