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Old 08-14-2005, 02:54 AM
300CE24 300CE24 is offline
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Default 5/10 Party hand......standard?

6-max, 6 players

Button ~$2500
BB ~$1000
Me ~$1000

Just sat down, all players unknown to me.

Preflop:

I look at 77 in the SB
Fold to Button, who calls
I make it $40
BB calls
Button calls

Flop 78Jr:

I bet $80
BB calls
Button makes it $250
I push.

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Old 08-14-2005, 02:59 AM
thabadguy thabadguy is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

double u, tee, eff mate?
Call the 250, he isnt calling ur push with a hand you beat.
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

no need to play this fast at all. i like the flop lead though.

let them take one off, see what turns, decide to lead or check and try to get the money in against a worse hand.

i assume your goal is to have people putting the money in with losers right? give them the chance.
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:12 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

the only card you really don't want to see is a 9 or a 10 on the turn if you think he will raise with a gutshot, but you do not have a read. He might raise you with a higher set but i doubt it. I would call and probably check to this raiser and hope he bets.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

Does anyone like flat calling, and leading for 250 on a non 9 or T turn? I think if you take this line, he may call you down which sets up for an easy river push. Hell he might even push back thinking he can get you off a weak J.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

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double u, tee, eff mate?
Call the 250, he isnt calling ur push with a hand you beat.

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Im not saying I would push here necessarily, but people say "he wont call with anything you beat" all the time amd its just flat out incorrect. Especially at 6 max or even more shorthanded. I know a boatload of guys who call that with AJ or worse.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

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double u, tee, eff mate?
Call the 250, he isnt calling ur push with a hand you beat.

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Im not saying I would push here necessarily, but people say "he wont call with anything you beat" all the time amd its just flat out incorrect. Especially at 6 max or even more shorthanded. I know a boatload of guys who call that with AJ or worse.

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Not trying to discredit you or be a dick, but..
Seriously? on a rainbow flop a huge 3 bet raise? TPTK?
Could we know who these boatload of guys are?
I could use some additions to my buddy list.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:54 PM
Paul2432 Paul2432 is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

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double u, tee, eff mate?
Call the 250, he isnt calling ur push with a hand you beat.

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Im not saying I would push here necessarily, but people say "he wont call with anything you beat" all the time amd its just flat out incorrect. Especially at 6 max or even more shorthanded. I know a boatload of guys who call that with AJ or worse.

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It is also incorrect for another reason. If your opponent holds a hand like JT he's may not put any more money in the pot regardless of what you do unless he makes a straight. By not re-raising all you do is give him a free chance to beat you.

Paul
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:56 PM
THATWACOKID THATWACOKID is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Party hand......standard?

i also know of quite a few who will call with hands that we beat here, but maybe the fact that i play a lil crazy has to do with that (i know you feel where i'm coming from, tbg) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-14-2005, 05:48 PM
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It is also incorrect for another reason. If your opponent holds a hand like JT he's may not put any more money in the pot regardless of what you do unless he makes a straight. By not re-raising all you do is give him a free chance to beat you.

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also, a hand like AJ or 78 might call ur flop allin but fold if a 9 or 10 comes on the turn. so i think ur flop push is fine.
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