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12-29-2005, 11:30 AM
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$55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss flop
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com
HERO (t2415) CO (t2285) Button (t3930) SB (t1325) BB (t45) Preflop: HERO is in UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="red">HERO raises t400</font>, CO calls t400, Button calls t400, <font color="gray">SB folds</font> Flop: (t1425) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players) HERO? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Button is a donk. He'll call preflop with any connector (even 3 gap), any 2 suited cards, or any single facecard. and he got lucky several times to become bigstack. no read on co. my thoughts were 1/2pot continuation bet, check it down, or all in to buy the pot. What's your move on the flop, and why? 
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12-29-2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
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I'd check personally. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Doesn't it seem like we have the best hand? Are we check/folding this? Seems like a good pot going to waste when we have a decent hand and a decent size pot (giving us 1/2 addition to our stack if we push and they fold). Basically what we need is for button not to wake up with A5/K5/K2/Q2/Q5/J5/J2, and CO to have a hand like 55+ for us to get called.
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#6
12-29-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
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[ QUOTE ] I'd check personally. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Doesn't it seem like we have the best hand? Are we check/folding this? Seems like a good pot going to waste when we have a decent hand and a decent size pot (giving us 1/2 addition to our stack if we push and they fold). Basically what we need is for button not to wake up with A5/K5/K2/Q2/Q5/J5/J2, and CO to have a hand like 55+ for us to get called. [/ QUOTE ] Just don't like a cont bet here, the flop is too dry, two opponents, a guy all-in (albeit for a tiny amount), SB on 8BB, bubble after this hand, us with 15BB, plenty of poker to play still, and no need to risk pissing away chips.
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#7
12-29-2005, 12:18 PM
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Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd check personally. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Doesn't it seem like we have the best hand? Are we check/folding this? Seems like a good pot going to waste when we have a decent hand and a decent size pot (giving us 1/2 addition to our stack if we push and they fold). Basically what we need is for button not to wake up with A5/K5/K2/Q2/Q5/J5/J2, and CO to have a hand like 55+ for us to get called. [/ QUOTE ] Just don't like a cont bet here, the flop is too dry, two opponents, a guy all-in (albeit for a tiny amount), SB on 8BB, bubble after this hand, us with 15BB, plenty of poker to play still, and no need to risk pissing away chips. [/ QUOTE ] Meh, I think the most +EV play is to push. If anyone would like to work out the math between all-in and check/fold, it would be much appreciated.
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#8
12-29-2005, 12:38 PM
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Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
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[ QUOTE ] I'd check personally. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Doesn't it seem like we have the best hand? Are we check/folding this? Seems like a good pot going to waste when we have a decent hand and a decent size pot (giving us 1/2 addition to our stack if we push and they fold). Basically what we need is for button not to wake up with A5/K5/K2/Q2/Q5/J5/J2, and CO to have a hand like 55+ for us to get called. [/ QUOTE ] What hands do you put CO and Button on? The 2 stacks that can cripple or eliminate you flat called your UTG raise with position. I think it's likely that one of both have a small-mid PP and will call your push in this situation. To answer your questions, I don't think we have the best hand here, and I would probably check/fold and still be in great shape for bubble play. You can't make a decent CB without committing yourself and I don't like a push here with 2 big stacks behind me.
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#9
12-29-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
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I'd check personally. [/ QUOTE ]
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#10
12-29-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: $55: I raise preflop, 2 callers + allin BB (shortstacked). I miss
I prefer check-fold myself. Seems to me that most hands that have you beat would call you and most hands that you have beat will fold. Not good.
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