Another "do you gamble" spot

[pooh74]

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Both shorties are desperate and both know that they are desperate. They aren’t the brightest in the world, but they are gamboolers. The latter shorty is most likely aware enough to understand that the other guy can have lots of hands. There is no reason to expect that open raiser is doing anything wacky with his non-push raise.

Seat 3: Seat 3 ( $2735 )
Seat 4: Seat 4( $630 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $1310 )
Seat 1: Seat 1 ( $560 )
Seat 8: Seat 8 ( $3985 )
Seat 9: Seat 9 ( $780 )

Blinds(75/150)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Hero [ 7h 7d ]

Seat 8 folds.
Seat 9 folds.
Seat 1 raises [300].
Seat 3 folds.
Seat 4 is all-In [555]
Hero …?

citanul

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This is slightly/very off topic/hijack, but i had a similar situation in an MTT ...4 left, i was 3rd stack, shorty UTG pushes his 145k (30k blinds) and UTG+1 cold calls (500k stack)....Im in SB with 190k and 88. I was ready to call before UTG+1 called then opted for fold. Obviously, moving up from 4th to 3rd in an 1800 man event is huge whereas in this SNG you might need help just to make the $.

That aside, I would fold here. If they both have Ax or two overs and an underpair then you're ahead, but say its like A6 JQ...you're a fav, but only a <40~% to win. One overpair and you're toast.

Too many hands in the ranges combine to make this a -EV call.

[schwza]

hero has put in 150 and only needs to put in another 480. from the descriptions of villains, it's not too likely either has an overpair. you're getting pretty sweet pot odds and will still have FE if call and lose.

it's pretty close, but i think 77 is a push. i'd fold 66 though.

[45suited]

As UMTerp said, the fact that I'm relatively shortstacked makes this a fold. This would be an easy call as a big stack. Those chips are very important - too important to risk on a play that will lose 2/3 of the time, IMO.

[schwza]

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that 77 has ~38.5% equity in the pot, which is enough to make it a hugely chip EV call

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and marginally +cashEV call, i think.

[gumpzilla]

I'd missed that we were in the BB, which is a stronger argument for calling as well. I'd love to hear other people's ideas of what range we should put the other two guys on.

[pooh74]

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Since you're reasonably short yourself, I probably call.

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I fold for the exact same reason.

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lol...exactly

[danger_mouse]

I think this might be a marginal +ev push. However, usually I'm folding. Reason being, I have just enough chips to push/pick up blinds repeatedly. On the low buy-in tables I play, I can make up for a slight -ev fold. However, if I'm on the rare table that I can't take control by pushing, I'm more likely to gamble here, because I need to and I'm getting good pot odds. Likely best case scenario, though, is that you are against 3 overcards.

[durron597]

The problem here is that small medium pairs lose value multiway. I fold.

[schwza]

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The problem here is that small medium pairs lose value multiway. I fold.

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i have the same vague intuition, but i can't really put my finger on what it means. can you elaborate?

The only way I can see playing this is if seat 1 wasn't so desperate and hadn't commited his stack so much. Then I'd push trying to get him out and have it heads up. Three way you'd probably face at least 3 over cards and end up in a lackluster gamble.

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