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Old 11-23-2005, 03:24 PM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
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MP3 is TAGgy. Should I be doing anything differently in this huge pot?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, SB calls, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, SB folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot:

18 BB
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:30 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: THE AT

I think we're behind 99% of the times on the river when he clearly bet for value. Still I would call...
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: THE AT

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I think we're behind 99% of the times on the river when he clearly bet for value. Still I would call...

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ya,i was pretty sure i was behind. do you like the flop gaybet?
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:53 PM
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ya,i was pretty sure i was behind. do you like the flop gaybet?

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Yes, this flop might get checked through if pfr holds only overs. We might get raised by AK, even though we're behind most of the time when we're raised. However we certainly would not want give a free card.

Turn call is easy.

At the river I'm actually capable of folding with a really solid read, but if my only read is "TAGgy" I would call, since imo that's a vague read.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:07 PM
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I would consider bet-folding the river if you think he's weak enough to lay down an overpair or if you've seen him get aggressive with draws / overcards in the past. But my default line would be the one you took.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:39 PM
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I would play this the same. I like betting the flop here, mostly to hope PFR will raise and clear out the field a little. If PFR doesn't raise, then its a bet for value.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:48 PM
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What about betting the turn and folding to a raise?
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:52 PM
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What about betting the turn and folding to a raise?

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If we bet the turn, why would we fold to a raise?

Isn't KK popping us again?

Edit: It just occurred to me that you may actually be talking about the river.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:56 PM
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Hi I am retarded. What about doing that on the river?
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Old 11-23-2005, 07:05 PM
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Hi I am retarded. What about doing that on the river?

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It does seem to be a good way to prevent MP3 from checking behind with an aggressively played AK. If someone else has QT or something, instead of a draw, we would like to get paid off by that.
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