Super EZ value bet,or is it.

[goofball]

UTG raises, EP coldcalls, MP coldcalls, CO coldcalls, SB folds, I 3bet with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the BB, they all call.

Flop is 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, UTG calls, MP calls, and the rest fold.


Turn is 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet, UTG folds, MP calsl.


river is a 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet planning to definitely call a raise.

I like your play throughout and I think your river plan is gOOt. Any reads on MP?

I would 3bet a raise in a heartbeat.

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I would 3bet a raise in a heartbeat.

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Hmmmm, is this based on the only draw that the river completes is a small str8 (villian w/ a 5) hence there is more value in a raise than a call? River play is the part of my game that needs the most work right now.

If I put him squarely on a bluff, I'd just call.

But I think he raises and calls here with any pocket pair as well.

Villian holding a 5 is very unlikely.

But having said that, I think I'd fold to a cap.

[deception5]

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If I put him squarely on a bluff, I'd just call.

But I think he raises and calls here with any pocket pair as well.

Villian holding a 5 is very unlikely.

But having said that, I think I'd fold to a cap.

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I really don't like any play that involves us folding this river.

[Shillx]

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I would 3bet a raise in a heartbeat.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Why would he come to life with 88 now? The only thing I could see him raising is either a stone bluff or a dumb 64/63 that thought it outdrew AA-TT.

OP - Yeah we value bet this river. What am I missing here? He has shown his willingness to call all the way so what makes you think he won't call now with something weak? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Why would he come to life with 88 now?

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With an UTG raiser and 3 cold callers, do you open up your 3betting range or close it down?

[Redd]

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Why would he come to life with 88 now?

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With an UTG raiser and 3 cold callers, do you open up your 3betting range or close it down?

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But even if he did make a correct pf-cc with 88, why would he smooth call the flop and turn?

Insta-3. I'm calling the cap as well. NH