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Old 05-02-2005, 09:55 AM
mimih mimih is offline
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Default QQ with A on board

What should I have done when an A came on the flop? should I have called down or folded?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:56 AM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

Reads? I'd fold at least the turn if not the flop.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:02 AM
adsman adsman is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

This is a drawless flop. He's not raising with a flush or str8 draw. I think that you can safely fold to the reraise. Reads would be helpful though as davelin said.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:18 AM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

I think you can safely fold the flop to the 3-bettor. If you would like to take a turn, go ahead, but be prepared to fold there.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:38 AM
xenthebrain xenthebrain is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

The flopraise is ok, but you can savely fold the turn UI.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:04 AM
pointcount pointcount is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

a common mistake new players make is going too far with pocket pairs when there is an overcard to the pair on the board. The standard play would be to raise the flop but when he 3-bets you call and check/fold the turn UI (unimproved).

Calling down like you did here is read dependent. If villan is unknown you should check/fold in this position. If you have a specific read on him saying he's overaggressive then sure see showdown.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:19 AM
MechanoMan MechanoMan is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

Depending on any reads, I might fold to the flop 3-bet. If not then, I'm out on the turn.

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Old 05-02-2005, 11:57 AM
ajrenni ajrenni is offline
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

With a flop so ragged, I doubt Villain is on any sort of draw, so you are almost definitely behind. I would call the flop re-raise, hoping either that a Queen hits or that Villain checks the turn for some reason (players make strange moves sometimes), allowing me a free look at the river.

I would fold the turn. The pot is not quite big enough to justify calling all the way down to the river with a probable 2-outer.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ with A on board

With no reads I fold the turn.
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