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Old 05-02-2005, 11:11 AM
xLukex xLukex is offline
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Raise the flop.

After you got check-raised on the turn, no betting on the river. Just call.

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pardon?

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Haha, whoops. He was check-raised on the river. Ummm after the scare card, I would probably let it check through on the river. Or you can bet and see if you get raised again.

Hell, what do I know. It's just cards.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:14 AM
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I raise the flop. The pot is large, and I want to protect my hand. I play the turn the same. I'm not sure about the river. Could an arguement be made for checking?

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Old 05-02-2005, 11:20 AM
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I raise the flop. The pot is large, and I want to protect my hand. I play the turn the same. I'm not sure about the river. Could an arguement be made for checking?

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why let villan(s) check through hands you beat. MP2 could just as easily have a weaker A up until the c/r on the river. I would consider just calling if someone bet in front of me, but you have 2 people left to act and it has been checked to you. I bet.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:31 AM
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I think you've gotta raise or fold the flop here, and if you feel you can't raise the turn when one of the best possible cards for you falls, you should have folded on the flop to begin with.

On the river, you have to bet. There are plenty of worse hands that will call you. I think that half the reason why people are saying to check behind on the river is because they saw you get check/raised. That sucks, but you can't let that skew your reasoning on future hands when you've got an easy value bet here. Next time, you'll get a better response if you cut off the action at your decision.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:31 AM
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I'm having trouble wrapping my head around these concepts (how much you win with a bet when you're ahead, how much you lose when you're behind). This is, for me, a difficult section of SSHE. Could you elaborate a bit more? Regardless, I definitely need to do some re-reading.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:48 AM
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You've gotta think about what hands your opponent could be playing, and what of those will call here. He could easily have Ax, and he'll call with it and you win. He might even have 3x, and might call with it and you win. He might have been betting a newfound flush draw holding one club, but now he won't call. There aren't really any hands that will just call the river, but beat you (AK is unlikely). He might have 5x, been betting his gutshot, and now you're boned. To me, the chance of that is small compared to the chances of getting called and winning. That makes betting out the best option.
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:01 PM
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If you catch one of the cards that you wanted, why are you playing scared? If you didn't want an Ace, why didn't you fold on the flop? When you're in a hand you need to have a plan.

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Very nice. Thank you! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:07 PM
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I'd raise the flop here too
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:10 PM
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Preflop - raise like you did
Flop - call like you did
Turn - I'm just calling here
River - I check here and see what happens, board is too scary for me.



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Preflop - raise like you did
Flop - no, raise
Turn - no, raise
River - no, bet for value
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:16 PM
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All is fine, except, making your decision on checking. I strongly advise checking, but why would you check? Check with intention to call, check with intention to raise, check with intention to fold, keep these in mind.
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