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Fold 15 45.45%
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:14 PM
DarrenX DarrenX is offline
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Default pot odds or tourney standing??

2405 in chips, table leader, 7 left. 75/150 blinds, I open in mp to 400 w/T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Solid player with 1150 thinks a bit and goes all in. Complete idiot, who earlier called 2 large stack all ins w/Q9o thinks and goes all in for 1225- it's back to me. Pot is a PHAT 2775 and it's 825 to call. does 3.4-1 make it a must call, or fold to save a healthy stack?

(converter didn't work, so here's the rough HH if interested):

***** Hand History for Game 3255044898 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:18563134 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, December 24, 15:45:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 67555 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: lulbond ( $1225 )
Seat 3: hankers68 ( $930 )
Seat 4: cubfanbob ( $1530 )
Seat 5: devancali25 ( $2270 )
Seat 8: DarrenX ( $2405 )
Seat 9: DddATL ( $490 )
Seat 10: leadership86 ( $1150 )
Trny:18563134 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DarrenX [ Td Tc ]
cubfanbob folds.
devancali25 folds.
DarrenX raises [400].
DddATL folds.
leadership86 is all-In [1150]
lulbond will be using his time bank for this hand.
lulbond is all-In [1150]
hankers68 folds.
hankers68: zzzzz
DarrenX...
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:16 PM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

I think you have to call this

btw, those people who type 'zzzz' should be shot
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

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I think you have to call this

btw, those people who type 'zzzz' should be shot

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This is the most annoying thing about online poker
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

Didn't know about the zs until the HH- I play with chat off. I highly recommend it!
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

easy call
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

Call..and it's not even close.
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

Calling takes me down below 1200... no one agrees that I can fold and still have a healthy stack?
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

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Calling takes me down below 1200... no one agrees that I can fold and still have a healthy stack?

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How good of a hand are you waiting for exactly?
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:44 PM
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Calling takes me down below 1200... no one agrees that I can fold and still have a healthy stack?

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You're still in decent shape even if you lose, and if you win you're in great shape to dominate until the money. You're just too far ahead of his range to fold. A very conservative estimate of his hands would be JJ+ and AQ+, and you're getting great odds even against that range. There are 24 ways he could have a bigger pair and 32 ways he could have AK/AQ. So you're more likely to be ahead, and you're getting about 2.5 to 1. Easy call factoring in the chances of a smaller pair, weaker ace, or even KQ.
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: pot odds or tourney standing??

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Calling takes me down below 1200... no one agrees that I can fold and still have a healthy stack?

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2000 is not that healthy and 1200 is not that desperate. What are you trying to do exactly fold your way into the money? I don't get it. This is an easy call.
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