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Old 11-16-2005, 01:12 AM
UnsungHero UnsungHero is offline
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Default $100 PLO8 hand, no content

Haven't seen a post in a while, so take a look to alleviate boredom. How would you play it?

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UTG ($19.65)
MP ($29.10)
CO ($102.50)
Button ($92.80)
Hero ($49.70)
BB ($58.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $5, BB folds.

Turn: ($15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $45</font>.

River: ($90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $90
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:35 AM
DrewOnTilt DrewOnTilt is offline
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Default Re: $100 PLO8 hand, no content

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Haven't seen a post in a while, so take a look to alleviate boredom. How would you play it?

Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $1 BB (6 handed) converter

UTG ($19.65)
MP ($29.10)
CO ($102.50)
Button ($92.80)
Hero ($49.70)
BB ($58.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $5, BB folds.

Turn: ($15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $45</font>.

River: ($90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $90

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Why did you call the flop bet with just a pair?
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:37 AM
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Fold the flop bet. What are you trying to win? Your dollar back. You checked because your hand wasn't strong, your nut low was counterfited allready your high was a pair of aces. If your hand wasn't strong enough to bet how can it be strong enough to call a potbet. Your only other option besides folding was reraising to try and take it down right there which would have been better than just calling, but again you have to ask yourself why you are going any further with this hand, just fold it.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: $100 PLO8 hand, no content

You flop play was kind of weak (calling with top pr and 2nd nut low) and turn and river brought the 2 best cards you could have asked for. Seems to be a marginal play unless you have some read/info on the bettor likes he's a LAG after the flop or something.

So what did the MP have?
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:01 PM
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Haven't seen a post in a while, so take a look to alleviate boredom. How would you play it?

Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $1 BB (6 handed) converter

UTG ($19.65)
MP ($29.10)
CO ($102.50)
Button ($92.80)
Hero ($49.70)
BB ($58.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5</font>, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $5, BB folds.

Turn: ($15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $45</font>.

River: ($90) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $90

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Why did you call the flop bet with just a pair?

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Other than the easy fold this is on the flop, unless u have an amazing read. How does a person starting with $30 preflop raise to $45 on the turn. Did he have more money or am I missing something?
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Old 11-16-2005, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: $100 PLO8 hand, no content

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If your hand wasn't strong enough to bet how can it be strong enough to call a potbet.

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Because heads-up against a single opponent's range of hands he estimates to have less than 50% equity but greater than 33% equity?

Folding the flop is the safe play because it's difficult to play non-nut hands. From an equity perspective it's probably correct to check-call this flop.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: $100 PLO8 hand, no content

I hadn't used the bison converter before, but the min raise put MP all in, he had like $8 left.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: $100 PLO8 hand, no content

I posted this in haste last night and didn't give any info. MP was a tilted LAG, and was on his 3rd or 4th buyin. He would pot every hand preflop and on the flop. I was just hoping to catch a hand and wait for him to run over me. He showed AT for top two.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: $100 PLO8 hand, no content

I checked because I knew he would bet. He would bet there with any Ace, and flush draw, and any low draw. I didn't raise the pot trying to take it down because I wasn't sure if I had the best hand or not, and he was sure to put all his chips in if I did.
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