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Old 11-12-2005, 02:28 PM
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I have a new db going on here, and just started at this table, so I don't know much of anyone here. Except I've seen the co show a lot of aggression in a few hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:30 PM
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I have a new db going on here, and just started at this table, so I don't know much of anyone here. Except I've seen the co show a lot of aggression in a few hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>

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After the flop play has been discussed, here's the rest of the hand:

, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (13 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

I find my river bet humorous.
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:34 PM
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Cleaning up some outs?
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:54 PM
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The flop 3-bet is to clean up some outs correct?

Did you consider calling the flop raise so you could attempt a check-raise on the turn if you hit a pair?

River should just be check/don't overcall. I might consider calling a single bet but UTG+2 most likely hit the Queen.
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:03 PM
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attempt a check-raise on the turn if you hit a pair?

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An interesting thought for sure. I just thought it would be more important to try to clear out some donk calling hands like A9 or J8 or something like that.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:04 PM
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Just a suggestion, 3-betting the flop is probably best though. Folding better 8's and 9's is nice and if they call it's for value.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:12 PM
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Just a suggestion, 3-betting the flop is probably best though. Folding better 8's and 9's is nice and if they call it's for value.

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Actually knowing these hands make this hand very funny.

1 limper had A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2nd had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and the CO had T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:26 PM
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FLOP:

I'd rather check/call the flop because:

- A bet from the SB where we are could fold some hands, whereas a bet from MP or LP might keep more people in. I doubt if we are going to win UI, so there is no need to knock anyone out.

- If a bet comes from our immediate left and gets a lot of calls we can checkraise for value.

- If our bet gets raised, it could knock some people out, and we don't want that.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:36 PM
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FLOP:

I'd rather check/call the flop because:

- A bet from the SB where we are could fold some hands, whereas a bet from MP or LP might keep more people in. I doubt if we are going to win UI, so there is no need to knock anyone out.

- If a bet comes from our immediate left and gets a lot of calls we can checkraise for value.

- If our bet gets raised, it could knock some people out, and we don't want that.

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There are boards on which checking a FF or an OESD is a good idea. This isn't one of them.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:38 PM
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I have a new db going on here, and just started at this table, so I don't know much of anyone here. Except I've seen the co show a lot of aggression in a few hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>

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It's not terrible by any means, but I'm less inclined to do this on a flush board. I'd rather check-call. If it was rainbow, I'd do it all the time.


Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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