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Old 09-20-2005, 01:49 AM
GutPunch GutPunch is offline
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Default Trouble at the 55\'s

Hand #1

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BB (t645)
UTG (t1235)
MP (t2635)
CO (t950)
Button (t2695)
Hero (t1840)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t175.

Flop: (t650) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2300</font>, Hero folds.

Should I check/fold that flop?


Hand #2

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SB (t905)
BB (t985)
UTG (t2060)
Hero (t985)
MP2 (t2470)
CO (t1450)
Button (t1145)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

UTG raises to 150. Hero re-raises to 350. folded to UTG who moves allin, hero??


HAND #3

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MP (t570)
CO (t1160)
Button (t2535)
SB (t1000)
BB (t3395)
Hero (t1340)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2700</font>, Hero??? Is he bustin out a squeeze play??

Should I call?? Should I have pushed PF?

HAND #4

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Button (t2310)
Hero (t1415)
BB (t4480)
UTG (t1795)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">UTG moves All-in, folded to hero..??</font>

wait for a better spot?


LAST HAND

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Button (t4610)
Hero (t5390)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button calls t300, Hero checks.

Flop: (t900) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t900) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, Button calls t600.

River: (t2100) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1000</font>, Button folds.


How do I get him to put all his chips in?? Do anything different?
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:02 AM
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#1.
a. I am not going to tell you how bad the preflop play was because im sure you already know that was over the top, right? Unless you had a read on him.
b. Yes you should check/fold this flop. With one over card go ahead and bet but KQ is way too much.

#2. This happens quite often. Do you have a read on him.
He could either be pushing to get you off your hand with 1010-JJ, AQ-AK. Pushing because he thinks he is a 50 50 at worst, AK. Or even pushing with AA-KK. I dont think you can get away from this hand without a read that says to fold.

#3. Fold, there is nothing you are ahead of here. Unless you have a read.

#4. Fold

#5. There are many ways to play this, all of which have their risks(button folding) and rewards(chips gained in each specific situation). Its pretty hard to play this one wrong, nh.
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

OK, that's a lot of hands to be posting in one thread. I think you'd be better off putting them in their own.

These are just one man's deeply flawed opinion, so please wait for someone better to come along and chime in before accepting these as gospel.

Hand 1: I usually lead the flop after defending PF, no matter what comes.

Hand 2: An UTG reraise usually means AA or AK. I fold the queens.

Hand 3: Tough spot to pick up AQ. You are OOP and have 13x the BB. I think you can fold this and feel good about it.

Hand 4: It depends, do you feel like flipping? Unless villain has 22, 33, or 23, you are looking at a race at best, and an overpair at worst.

Hand 5: Figure this out, and you will be a poker god.
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

hand 1 fold pf. you have too many chips to push, button has you covered, and your position after the flop sucks.

2, call. u are getting the right odds at this point to call with any 2 cards. If you dont know that yet, move down to $11's and study more. not kidding

3. fold, your beat, probably in 2 places.

4. 33 is great to push with, lousy to call with. At best you 50/50 at worst 80/20.

5. you cant make him, but if you check he may try to steal the pot.

This is pretty basic stuff. If you dont know it yet, and money means anything to you, please do yourself a favor and move down to $11's and study more. If the money doesn't matter and it's recreation to you, please move up to 109's and play at my table.

we all start somewhere and learn this stuff, but 55's is an expensive place to learn.

Steve
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

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Hand 2: An UTG reraise usually means AA or AK. I fold the queens.


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yuk, start from the beginning, build the pot total and look at the odds, it's huge, you cant fold QQ for 615 chips into a 1390 chip pot
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Old 09-20-2005, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

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Hand 2: An UTG reraise usually means AA or AK. I fold the queens.


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yuk, start from the beginning, build the pot total and look at the odds, it's huge, you cant fold QQ for 615 chips into a 1390 chip pot

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I didn't even look at the stacks. This is what I meant by "wait for someone better to chime in."

Thanks for pointing it out.

But indulge my ignorance for a second. If we assume villain has AA/KK this would be a bad call, because you are a 4:1 dog, correct?
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Old 09-20-2005, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

man.. im biting my tongue. keep postin these guys will be good to you. holla
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Old 09-20-2005, 03:21 AM
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man.. im biting my tongue. keep postin these guys will be good to you. holla

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huh?
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Old 09-20-2005, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

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man.. im biting my tongue. keep postin these guys will be good to you. holla

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Nah, come on dude. If I am spreading total bullshit, please let this poor guy know before it's too late.

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Old 09-20-2005, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Trouble at the 55\'s

how high a percent can you put on that read though. He can have lots of different hands there, not just the ones you worry about. A weaker player will play AK, AQ, 88-AA exactly the same in that spot, they will push so they dont have to play postflop. Thats why you call with those odds, you can never be sure enough on your read to overcome your advantage when your wrong.

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