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Old 12-11-2005, 11:41 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

Opponent is solid. In retrospect I think the turn check is a mistake.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

Button (t645)
SB (t945)
BB (t955)
UTG (t1165)
Hero (t1040)
MP1 (t2145)
MP2 (t1845)
CO (t1260)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP1 calls t200, MP2 folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t550) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

River: (t550) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t500</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1050
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

hmm, call me a donk, but I'd have called that river bet.

But really, like you mention, I think betting the turn is better.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

Calling the river bet is out of the question, period.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

Tell me a non-bluffing/non- semi-bluffing hand I beat on the river.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

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Opponent is solid. In retrospect I think the turn check is a mistake.

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Well, I guess you know the solution to your own problems. The tricky part here is: how much do you bet?
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

AK played really strangely.

On a serious note though I agree with betting the turn which i might end up going broke on not sure.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

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AK played really strangely.

On a serious note though I agree with betting the turn which i might end up going broke on not sure.

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I think AK is getting all the money in on the flop.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

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hmm, call me a donk, but I'd have called that river bet.

But really, like you mention, I think betting the turn is better.

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Betting turn is good to charge draws, but it also folds out weaker aces and checking here gives them a chance to take a stab at the pot. Also, raising turn means committing to calling a push. I think it's close between checking and betting the turn.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Watch Top two pair go to sh*T (55)

push turn
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:34 AM
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push turn

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I like this line
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