PokerStars and Rakeback - Page 3

krazyace5 · #1 10-08-2005, 10:51 PM

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they sure provide a valuable service to society....

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Lots of jobs don't....

Jimbo · #2 10-08-2005, 10:54 PM

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they sure provide a valuable service to society....

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Lots of jobs don't....

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Name all of them.

jason_t · #3 10-08-2005, 10:37 PM

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nah, i think pokerstars will just continue making money and being happy.

i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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I think you're generally spot on, but this is way off the mark and demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the situation and the consequences of recent events.

Even lots of really solid players just had their bottom line cut by thousands of dollars per month.

Jimbo · #4 10-08-2005, 10:43 PM

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Even lots of really solid players just had their bottom line cut by thousands of dollars.

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Why should anyone that doesn't have rakeback care? You rakeback collectors were smart, no doubt. However you are taking money out of the pockets of players who do not have rakeback. Or do you not understand that?

jason_t · #5 10-08-2005, 10:54 PM

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Even lots of really solid players just had their bottom line cut by thousands of dollars.

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Why should anyone that doesn't have rakeback care? You rakeback collectors were smart, no doubt. However you are taking money out of the pockets of players who do not have rakeback. Or do you not understand that?

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I don't; how were rakeback collectors taking money from those that do not have rakeback?

Voltron87 · #6 10-08-2005, 10:57 PM

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Even lots of really solid players just had their bottom line cut by thousands of dollars.

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Why should anyone that doesn't have rakeback care? You rakeback collectors were smart, no doubt. However you are taking money out of the pockets of players who do not have rakeback. Or do you not understand that?

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I don't; how were rakeback collectors taking money from those that do not have rakeback?

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in the grand scheme of things if a site gives a bunch of people their money back other customers will have to be charged more

Jimbo · #7 10-08-2005, 11:01 PM

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I don't; how were rakeback collectors taking money from those that do not have rakeback?

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Every online poker room sets aside a certain amount or percentage of money for marketing. This includes bringing new fish to the sites, general deposit bonuses, money added to tournaments and so on.

For any rake they lose to affilliates that is less money available for the other promotions I mentioned above which are available to nearly everyone.

TylerD · #8 10-08-2005, 07:51 PM

think its unlikely to happen, but if it did i doubt it would exclusively be for new accounts.

KramerTM · #9 10-08-2005, 07:52 PM

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think its unlikely to happen, but if it did i doubt it would exclusively be for new accounts.

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Good point. This would be yet ANOTHER brilliant move. Dude, we should go into business together. And if all doesn't work out, we can just run off with people's money like Dutch Boyds et al. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Paragon · #10 10-08-2005, 08:33 PM

It'd be nice if there was a method to simply exchange FPPs for real money. Generally, you get 5 FPPs per $1 in tournament entry fees. Their bonuses are generally setup so you have to earn 5x the FPPs to get the bonus, so that's essentially 100% rakeback over however many hands it takes you to reach your bonus amount...

If you could trade back 25 FPPs for $1 in real money at any time that would be a *huge* incentive I think. Even 50 FPPs would be reasonable... Not all of us want to play satellites to $10k tournies or buy merchandise, although obviously the reasoning behind those options is that we'd be promoting PokerStars for them.