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Old 10-07-2004, 02:31 PM
Pil Sung Do Pil Sung Do is offline
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Default KK in MP

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: KK in MP

I would cold call and see what the turn action is like.
You could very well be up against AQ or KK...but I think the odds of 10 10, QQ, AA are pretty good.
On this board, I think this is a hand you want to showdown cheaply.
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: KK in MP

Run away. If you're not up against a set, you're up against aces.
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: KK in MP

Another toughie. I'm tempted to call down praying for a raised Q for isolation and an over-played AQ. But I think I come to my senses and muck.

- Jim
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Old 10-07-2004, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: KK in MP

Reads? Is SB an idiot or does he have QT, TT or 77? MP1 is problematical since you are behind AA and QQ and he's 3-bet you. Does he bet JJ here after you pf capped and led the flop? With no reads I think you need to call here and hope to improve on the turn.
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Old 10-07-2004, 05:46 PM
Pil Sung Do Pil Sung Do is offline
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Default Re: KK in MP **RESULTS**

I had no reads on either player, but felt that the 3bet preflop was either AA or QQ.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $8.25 (All-In)</font>, SB calls.

River: (14.12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: 14.12 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB has Jc Ac (one pair, jacks).
MP1 has Qc Qd (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins 14.12 BB. </font>
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Old 10-07-2004, 05:58 PM
Pil Sung Do Pil Sung Do is offline
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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, MP1 calls.

MP1 has "checkraised" me before the flop. Most likely he has AA or QQ. I discount KK for obvious reasons. Since only one hav beats me, it's an easy cap.


Flop: (13 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

Well, at least I will know where I stand. It's checked to me and then check raised and check-REraised. So there are two players both coming back after I've shown strength. One has to have a set or at least AA.


Turn: (10 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets $8.25 (All-In)</font>, SB calls.

Turn would have given me a straight draw. But it doesn't matter. I feel better about my decision.
River: (14.12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: 14.12 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB has Jc Ac (one pair, jacks).
MP1 has Qc Qd (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins 14.12 BB. </font>

I'm pleased with my read about MP1, but confused my SB. And unfortunately, he left soon after this hand.
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:32 PM
X-Calibre X-Calibre is offline
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Default Re: My thoughts

how does mp1 bet 8.25 all in at a 2/4 table?
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: KK in MP

without a read this is tough. so many douches limp reraise stupid hands, and I hate to get pushed off my kings. But the action is telling you you are beat so folding is prolly the wise play
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Old 10-07-2004, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: My thoughts

how does mp1 bet 8.25 all in at a 2/4 table?

That's all he had left. The raise to him was $8.00 and he had $8.25 still in front of him.
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