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Old 09-12-2005, 03:26 PM
jonoo jonoo is offline
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Default two $11 PP hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

CO (t775)
Button (t735)
Hero (t785)
BB (t800)
UTG (t825)
UTG+1 (t785)
MP1 (t850)
MP2 (t775)
MP3 (t1670)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t85, UTG+1 calls [t770] t15, MP1 folds, Hero????

Hand #2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t700)
UTG (t1070)
MP (t2730)
Button (t615)
SB (t2885)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero???

are both of these hands pretty standard pushes? can I fold the QQ w/ no read early on?
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:35 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: two $11 PP hands

This is one of the only spots where I might consider folding QQ in an 11. But you will still see this done with AK, and JJ-99, I think you have to call. I'm folding in a $33 though.

In the second hand, do you have any sort of a read on Villian? This is a bad spot where having position the flop is pretty bad because you hate every single flop. On the other hand if you think the PF limp is a trap based on earlier in the SnG then you can just check and hope you flop a set. Otherwise just push.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: two $11 PP hands

No.

#1. Its a 11, get your chips in there.
#2. You NEED to know whether he will call you or not. If he wont push. But if there is a chance he will, check it.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:46 PM
jonoo jonoo is offline
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Default Re: two $11 PP hands

I had no read on the villan in hand 2, I was thinking that he didnt have a pair and that he would fold most hands in that spot, so at worst it would be a race. I didnt really want to check and have to play the flop. I guess I had enough chips to do that
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:50 PM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: two $11 PP hands

1. Call, push - get all your chips in on an $11. His range - literally - is A8o+, 44+, QJs+.

2. Check and play the flop, wait for a better spot to push - If you push this hand, I promise you will be called by a wide variety of hands and will be in coinflip mode all the way.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:53 PM
2Fast2Furious 2Fast2Furious is offline
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Default Re: two $11 PP hands

1 - yeah, push, expect everyone to call with stuff like A-5 and 8-9 suited though
2 - I'd check and see what hits on the flop......you've got position
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