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1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
So,
I previously had a post about a trip coming up to atlantic city where I plan on playing 1/2NL with about $80-$100 to start. We covered most of the preflop strategy, but I'm curious about general post-flop strategy. Am I letting go of TPTK in any decent sized pot? Am I letting go of overpairs anywhere? Examples: Hand1: Hero dealt QhQc, raises preflop to $10 gets 2 callers Flop comes Ts 8s 3d Hero makes PSB Villain raises a good amount (2-3bet) Other player folds. Hero ??? Hand 2: Hero is dealt AQ, Flop comes Q T 2 Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero ??? Basically, I want to know how to deal with TPTK or overpair situations in these types of games in the following situations: (1) in position after a pot sized bet w/ light draw board (2) in position after a pot sized bet w/ draw heavy board (3) OOP w/ light draw board (4) OOP w/ heavy draw board Thanks |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
In a live 1/2 game, a $5 raise will get called in 17 places. Players on the waiting list for 3/6 will run across the room to call your tiny preflop raise despite not having been dealt into the hand because $5 is just too cheap and they will take that price to play the board against you. Raises to $10 or $15 are more likely to be standard and sometimes those will even be called multiple times. In a live 1/2 game with a 50BB stack, I will only fold top pair or better if somebody turns their cards over and they beat me.
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
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In a live 1/2 game, a $5 raise will get called in 17 places. Players on the waiting list for 3/6 will run across the room to call your tiny preflop raise despite not having been dealt into the hand because $5 is just too cheap and they will take that price to play the board against you. Raises to $10 or $15 are more likely to be standard and sometimes those will even be called multiple times. In a live 1/2 game with a 50BB stack, I will only fold top pair or better if somebody turns their cards over and they beat me. [/ QUOTE ] I already fixed my typo... should have been a $10 raise ( was thinking about my .50/1 game at home) |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
Cool; I still stand by what I said. I think never folding TPTK or better in a live 1/2 game on a 50BB stack is +EV. I've seen people go to the felt with far worse.
If you are at a table with loose calling standards with respect to raises (this is not unlikely), you might want to widen your limp/reraising standards UTG and UTG+1. I've done it in the Foxwoods 1/2 $100 max game with great success. Example: I limp 33 UTG, UTG+1 makes it $10, 4 people call, I push for $100 (to win a $55 pot), a bunch of people fold, and I called by AQ where I'm a slight favorite with a huge overlay. People will fold out their middle pairs (which are crushing your small pairs or racing with your AK) but call with AK/AQ/KQ (I've even seen KJ call one of these) which you are killing with AK or a slight favorite against with a pair. |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
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Cool; I still stand by what I said. I think never folding TPTK or better in a live 1/2 game on a 50BB stack is +EV. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Only possible exception is if the guy is a total rock or if top pair is a pair of 7's or something. |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
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In a live 1/2 game, a $5 raise will get called in 17 places. Players on the waiting list for 3/6 will run across the room to call your tiny preflop raise despite not having been dealt into the hand because $5 is just too cheap and they will take that price to play the board against you. Raises to $10 or $15 are more likely to be standard and sometimes those will even be called multiple times. In a live 1/2 game with a 50BB stack, I will only fold top pair or better if somebody turns their cards over and they beat me. [/ QUOTE ] So, you're not laying down TPTK to any big reraise? What about against players you've read as fairly tight? What about smaller pots? |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
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In a live 1/2 game, a $5 raise will get called in 17 places. Players on the waiting list for 3/6 will run across the room to call your tiny preflop raise despite not having been dealt into the hand because $5 is just too cheap and they will take that price to play the board against you. [/ QUOTE ] Damn that was funny. But a good thing for me to learn nonetheless, since all my casino play has been at the limit tables. But I will probably try to play on a NL table the next time I am in casino country, so its good to 5xBB is more of a standard PFR. |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
any other thoughts on post-flop strategy for short-stacked play??
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
For 50xBB stacks, people can pry my TPTK from my dead fingers. I rarely, if ever, fold hands 1 & 2 in a live game.
As stated before, PF rasises should be higher, as you will both get more callers than in a online game, and it makes playing TPTK easier. I usually raise 5-7x the BB. Once you double through, look up some deep stack posts to get a better feel if you havent already had experience with one. deep stack theory in MHNL . This post has tons of the forums' best Mid-High NL players in it. As for bottom questions, I fold these TPTK 10% of the time. The real fun starts when you are deeper and there are other bad deep stacks around you. EDIT: I also had a fear playing big stack a little while back- since then, I gained some experience and asked fellow posters to give some thoughts about psychological shortcomings regarding deeper stacks. orange questions |
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Re: 1/2 NL, 50BB buyin strategies - TPTK
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For 50xBB stacks, people can pry my TPTK from my dead fingers. I rarely, if ever, fold hands 1 & 2 in a live game. As stated before, PF rasises should be higher, as you will both get more callers than in a online game, and it makes playing TPTK easier. I usually raise 5-7x the BB. Once you double through, look up some deep stack posts to get a better feel if you havent already had experience with one. deep stack theory in MHNL . This post has tons of the forums' best Mid-High NL players in it. As for bottom questions, I fold these TPTK 10% of the time. The real fun starts when you are deeper and there are other bad deep stacks around you. EDIT: I also had a fear playing big stack a little while back- since then, I gained some experience and asked fellow posters to give some thoughts about psychological shortcomings regarding deeper stacks. orange questions [/ QUOTE ] Thanks orange, I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] your posts! |
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