JTo UTG against LAG

[lefty rosen]

No winning player plays that on a full table in first postion maybe if it's suited and passive. It's barely playale on a short table. You better move down to micro limits where that mistake won't get punished frequently.......

[Frogic]

This post actually demonstrates the inner workings of the lag brain. Usually I have no idea what this kind of player is thinking when they turn over hands like this. Its interesting how it shows the step by step thought process, instead of the usual 'they have to be drunk' or 'they don't actually think about their hand'

[BongRips]

ni han

[Harv72b]

Fold preflop. Once in a blue moon I might raise from UTG with JTs; JTo should be an automatic muck on any level above .50/1, and usually a fold on the microlimits as well. Raising it on a 5/10 full table is just asking people to take your money.

Especially after you get 3-bet, and 3-bet after 2 other players had coldcalled no less, leading the flop is just dumb. You have jack high, which beats approximately 0% of the hands that CO might have, let alone the 2 coldcallers between you. You don't even have a draw. If I'd been sniffing glue and found myself playing this the way you did preflop, I hope that I'd have enough sense to check/call this flop (getting at least 16:1 to call 1 bet folding would be wrong, even with such a weak holding).

Having done that on the flop, the turn becomes the easiest check/fold ever. You are up against 3 opponents, and again, you have about a 0% chance of holding the best hand and a similar chance of pushing all 3 opponents off of their hands. This bet is as surely -EV as going for a new world record in the chip throw on a crowded casino floor would be.

You did not hit one of your outs on the river, as you did not have outs. Considering that you shouldn't have been in the hand to begin with, and definitely shouldn't have seen the river, leading the river is lame, 3-betting the river is worse still, and calling the cap is the kind of play that gets you on my buddy list. The LAG in this hand was you.

In summary, the mistakes that I see in the play of this hand (in order from biggest mistake to least), are:

1) Betting the turn instead of check/folding.
2) Not folding preflop.
3) 3-betting the river.
4) Calling the river cap.
5) Leading the flop.
6) Raising preflop.
7) Not folding to the river raise.
8) Leading the river.

I'm not trying to be rude or harsh, but if this hand is typical of the way you play poker, you have no business sitting at a 5/10 or even 1/2 table. Unless you don't like money. Buy & read a copy of SSH and listen to the comments you get on these forums if you are serious about playing this game profitably.

EDIT: After reading the other replies, I see that you actually somehow won this hand. This makes the villian not a LAG but a maniac, but does nothing to change the plethora of ways in which this hand was misplayed.

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

After reading this hand, I've informed silkyslim that he needs to quit poker.

-Craig
<font color="white"> He imformed me that it was play money, suckas! </font>

[Frogic]

HE HAD A READ. Thats why you're stuck in the small stakes forum and he will be playing 100/200 within a week.

[chesspain]

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This is deeply retarded.

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I really, really hate when people use the word "retarded" but this is deeply funny.

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It was deeply developmentally disabled.

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

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HE HAD A READ. Thats why you're stuck in the small stakes forum and he will be playing 100/200 within a week.

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Joking, right?

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[nepenthe]

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I decided to play above my BR (I usually play 1/2) to see if I could handle it

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Villian was LAGish, rest of the table seemed decent.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

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No, you can't handle it.

[Klepton]

this post is the very reason why SS sucks