In anticipation of the end of mining after Party Beta takes effect

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Isn't someone developing a program called "supamine"? What's the point if Party Beta is going to make it irrelevant?

John

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he's already working on a way to get observed hands without reading the .hhf

[Voltron87]

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Isn't someone developing a program called "supamine"? What's the point if Party Beta is going to make it irrelevant?

John

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he's already working on a way to get observed hands without reading the .hhf

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right, and then party will ban the new supamine program or pahud. if party wants observer mining gone, goddamnit it will be gone.

[Pov]

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Isn't someone developing a program called "supamine"? What's the point if Party Beta is going to make it irrelevant?

John

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he's already working on a way to get observed hands without reading the .hhf

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right, and then party will ban the new supamine program or pahud. if party wants observer mining gone, goddamnit it will be gone.

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Actually, for the resourceful they'll never be able to prevent screen capture (assuming they would ever intend to). To anticipate, no, they can't prevent you from running an external program because you can always run Party from a virtual machine or terminal and screen capture from the host system. Of course that's too complex for the casual player, but then again, the casual player doesn't really gain anything from data mining in the first place I suppose. So anyway, if they want to remove observer mining they will have to remove observing.

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ok, i will change my statement to "if party wants observer mining gone, goddamnit they will make it infeasible and too much of a pain for 99% of players."

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ok, i will change my statement to "if party wants observer mining gone, goddamnit they will make it infeasible and too much of a pain for 99% of players."

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Not that it matters. 90+% of the players don't mine anyway (the casual players). Of the 10% remaining, it only takes .1% of them with programming knowledge to decide to sniff the IP packets and write a program that mines on a and displays status on a separate system.

For serious 2+2 types, I doubt requiring a 2nd monitor and system to run mining software and have all the stats will deter them. All this work to prevent datamining really will have a minor impact, particularly if you count hands played.

Say:
90% of hands are by people who don't datamine
5% (the semi-serious players) will give it up
5% (the die-hards) will work around it with a 2nd system

Now, weight that by hands played, the die-hards play waaaay more hands than anyone else. The EXACT demographic that plays the most datamined hands won't be really affected.

So, all this effort only stops a fairly small percentage of played hands from using datamining help. Effort I'd much rather see spent on improved bot and collusion detection, or, god forbid, good customer service.

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"Of the 10% remaining, it only takes .1% of them with programming knowledge to decide to sniff the IP packets and write a program that mines on a and displays status on a separate system."

if this is actually possible I'm never playing online poker again. It almost certainly isn't..

[slavic]

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"Of the 10% remaining, it only takes .1% of them with programming knowledge to decide to sniff the IP packets and write a program that mines on a and displays status on a separate system."

if this is actually possible I'm never playing online poker again. It almost certainly isn't..

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Possible? Yea anything is possible. Doable in our lifetime, yea probably. Worth the effort, not likely.