QQ gets check-raised

wslee00 · #1 10-28-2005, 02:29 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($53.50)
MP3 ($212.90)
CO ($52.45)
Button ($176.50)
SB ($122.15)
BB ($103.30)
Hero ($111.70)
UTG+1 ($96.80)
MP1 ($82.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($13) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, MP2 calls $10, SB raises to $30, Hero ???

#2 10-28-2005, 02:43 AM

come over the top for another raise. I put him on a draw or a PP like 66,77,88,TT, or JJ or a couple of high cards. He may simply be raising you because he thinks you have 2 unpaired high cards and missed the flop. If he re-re-re-raises I would have to fold. He is unlikely to make this play with a hand that you have beat unless he is a maniac. If he calls and checks the turn (which he is bery likely to do if he calls regardless of the cards he holds) I would check behind him. I'm ok with giving a free card to a possible flush draw in this situation. Be prepared to call a reasonable river bet if the board isn't scary.

Macquarie · #3 10-28-2005, 03:12 AM

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come over the top for another raise. I put him on a draw or a PP like 66,77,88,TT, or JJ or a couple of high cards. He may simply be raising you because he thinks you have 2 unpaired high cards and missed the flop. If he re-re-re-raises I would have to fold. He is unlikely to make this play with a hand that you have beat unless he is a maniac. If he calls and checks the turn (which he is bery likely to do if he calls regardless of the cards he holds) I would check behind him. I'm ok with giving a free card to a possible flush draw in this situation. Be prepared to call a reasonable river bet if the board isn't scary.

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Disagree. He's checkraised not only the preflop raiser, but also a cold caller, so less likely to be a tester bet. I think we need to give him credit for at least an over pair here. If he was drawing, he'd take the 3:1 odds here.

I'd lay this down. My guess is that this is a set protecting his hand against the draws.

amoeba · #4 10-28-2005, 03:14 AM

laydown is fine.

if villain is ultra aggressive, call the raise, lead a blank turn.

#5 10-28-2005, 03:21 AM

Didn't notice it was multi-way. I seem to be missing things like this tonight. It's not a very observant night for me. With the pot being 3 way I would probably fold but there would be a few situations where I would call based on my opponents. However, there is no such info on the opponents here so it looks like a fold.

wslee00 · #6 10-28-2005, 11:45 AM

yeah i raised all-in and he called w/ top set... i have to stop drinking before i play

#7 10-28-2005, 11:47 AM

Lol. Yeah I stopped doing that although I always seemed to win a lot when I did. I would come home from the bar and quadruple up. I'm pretty sure it was just luck though.