A Day In The Life Of Joe Republican

[sameoldsht]

It makes me sad that so many are brainwashed as you obviously are. Your only hope is the 12 Step Program to Overcome Liberalism .

[natedogg]

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He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social
Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made
sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.


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The truly elitist paternalism of a leftist. It makes me sick. "The government made sure he would take care of himself" pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with you left-wing wacko commie bastards.

natedogg

[Cyrus]

"Communists and socialists said they led the battle for the working man but really they didn't. Communism was just another way for the political elite to oppress and control the masses."

In any country you would care to mention where the communists did not assume power (that would include a pretty BIG chunk of the world, as you should know), what the original poster wrote is, of course, correct. And you are, of course, wrong. This is not a matter for yet another of the long, drawn-out debates you are so fond of. It's a matter of historical record.

And you are confusing post-victory communists (who then formed those political elites, dummy!) with communists/socialists in the perennial opposition, who, yes, fought for the working man.

America, mind you, has a long and distinguished record of working class struggles. If you ever get a chance to get your head out of your behind (say when the time comes to vote!), you could do worse than look up a useful book or two on the subject.

My recommendation would be this little title. Easy reading too.

"Safety standards are indeed important."

Hah. and who forced these standards through?

(Don’t answer "the legislature", baby, it's a trick question!)

"Labour unions aren't really very important today, in my opinion, although they may once have been so."

You are wrong about today -- and of course you are right about "once". Note that if you are right about unions having been useful at other times, and since all fighting labour unions were socialist by nature, this contradicts your statement (in the same post [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) that socialists never did anything for the working man!

"Social Security contributions have helped to keep many people poor. Heck the average Joe would have been much better off just putting 7.5% of his paycheck every week in a bank savings account drawing interest and letting it compound for 40 years, rather than being forced to "invest" it in Social Security."

The issue of Social Security should be viewed in he context of human behaviour. People, in general, behave far, far differently than your little worldview would have it. Yes, the math are precisely as you put it -- but there's a reason for all this.

I would recommend something by Tversky et al here, but I hesitate since you should be reading your History by now...

"Class warfare speech is becoming so much drivel nowadays, as continual globalization and the breaking down of barriers renders moot many of the issues of yesteryear."

If I had a penny for every time an ignoramus has announced the end of the class distinctions and class warfare, I would be ...well, I would be at the same class I am now, but you get my point. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Bez]

You are embaressingly biased. Having just finished University, I claim that students are ridiculously idealistic.

[Bez]

The unions almost destroyed Britain in the '70s. God bless Maggie Thatcher.

[BeerMoney]

Is that in we should be happy for some of the contributions that have been made.. I think we can agree that if we WERE ALL on the LEFT, or ALL on the RIGHT, things would get out of hand.. Like if liberals ran things, you could sue your boss if he asked you to come to work.. And if strong conservatives ran things we wouldn't get to surf for internet porn, or read anything other than the bible..

There's no point to going through and saying,,,"Oh liberals had nothing to do with blah blah" Take in the spirit of the message, not the minutae of the points..

[MMMMMM]

Cyrus,

Yes, the Commies have always claimed to be "for the working man"--but that position has always been a sham, in my opinion. What the Commies really wanted all along was Power--pure unmitigated political power backed up with gun barrels. Where they got that power, they abused it most horribly. Where they didn't get it, or are still striving for it, they make the claim that they are doing it "for the people". Yeah right. Leave the people the hell alone, you totalitarian freak bastards.

[Bez]

We all need internet porn.

[vulturesrow]

Id like to see how how Cyrus can gloss over the fact that Communist governments have historically been some of the most violent and oppressive in history. Im sure Chris Alger will jump in with a few plays from the Chomsky playbook.

[Bez]

You like guns too much but your points here are 100% correct.