At a loss: 99 UTG

#1 10-26-2005, 06:57 AM

.25/.50 nl hold'em 6-handed

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($26.57)
CO ($49.90)
Button ($40.68)
SB ($77.55)
BB ($129.40)
Hero ($43.47)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Hero folds.

Hattifnatt · #2 10-26-2005, 07:09 AM

Looks totally find to me.

UOPokerPlayer · #3 10-26-2005, 07:34 AM

You need reads to play poker. PF is fine. I like to bet something like 3.5 instead of 3. In my experience it works so much better, and it's only .5 more. That's nitpicking though. 2/3 pot turn and fold to a raise. If you get called, don't even bother with a river blocker, just check/fold. You get a lot of folds on the turn, the king card could be scary to villian.

#4 10-26-2005, 07:38 AM

I definately think this line is losing money.
preflop:
-everyone folds. I make 75 cents.
-someone makes a small reraise. Do I call? Now I'm afraid of most flops, and could just be screwed, hands down.
-someone makes a big reraise. I lay this down, right?
-I get called by more than one player. This is probably the best scenario.

I get one caller, and make the continuation bet on this flop.
-If he folds, I've bet a total of $5 to make 2.75, minus rake.
-If he reraises it's an obvious fold
He calls.
-Now what? Checking shows obvious weakness here and he will surely bet.

Hattifnatt · #5 10-26-2005, 07:40 AM

So how would You play the hand?

#6 10-26-2005, 07:41 AM

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You need reads to play poker.

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The guy had just sat down. Had been there about 1 orbit.

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2/3 pot turn and fold to a raise. If you get called, don't even bother with a river blocker, just check/fold. You get a lot of folds on the turn, the king card could be scary to villian.

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You really think he'll fold often enough that a 2/3 pot bet is +EV? Or that he'll call with a hand that's losing to me?

#7 10-26-2005, 07:42 AM

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So how would You play the hand?

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That's how I played it, but I hate it. I'm at a loss.

Hattifnatt · #8 10-26-2005, 07:44 AM

Ahh.. OK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

IMO the play is fine but I see your point.

Macquarie · #9 10-26-2005, 08:18 AM

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I definately think this line is losing money.
preflop:
-everyone folds. I make 75 cents.
-someone makes a small reraise. Do I call? Now I'm afraid of most flops, and could just be screwed, hands down.
-someone makes a big reraise. I lay this down, right?
-I get called by more than one player. This is probably the best scenario.

I get one caller, and make the continuation bet on this flop.
-If he folds, I've bet a total of $5 to make 2.75, minus rake.
-If he reraises it's an obvious fold
He calls.
-Now what? Checking shows obvious weakness here and he will surely bet.

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Well, on the bright side, while you may steal the blinds, or take down the pot with a continuation bet, or may flop an overpair, you also get four cards to try to spike a well concealed set.

If you feel so bad about raising 99 UTG, then limp and play for set value alone.

PinkSteel · #10 10-26-2005, 08:28 AM

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I definately think this line is losing money....
I get one caller, and make the continuation bet on this flop.

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If caller is SB or BB, you won't have to make a continuation bet because you'll have position.

Your argument may well be valid, and I usually limp 99 UTG (full ring, don't know about 6max), but the reason is position. I'll raise 99 on the button all day long.