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What is the \"standard play\" here
ok, villian is to my right. he just sat down, but i think i've played against him before and he is a thinking player.
short handed hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] preflop: hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls flop: 4 SB 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] BB checks, hero bets, calls Turn: 3BB 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] check, hero bets, BB raises, hero calls River: 7BB 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] BB checks, hero... |
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
What was the river card?
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
uh bet/call?
looks like spades to me. |
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
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uh bet/call? looks like spades to me. [/ QUOTE ] I'd bet here, too, but because I'm hoping he didn't have a flush draw, but rather a worse king or some other pair (maybe paired up a seven on the turn?). If he just had a flush draw, he's folding, if the read is right that he's a thinking player. |
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
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uh bet/call? looks like spades to me. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. If this is a "thinking player" as you stated, he realizes that with a large range of your pf raising hands (even UTG) 1) you miss that flop completely (i.e. AQ, AJ, AT), or 2)you have an underpair to the K (i.e. QQ to mid-pair). When he check-raises that turn, he probably has 1)a 5, 2) a weaker K, or 3)a diamond draw. There's also the remote possibility that he's getting tricky with a smaller pocket pair, but I'm not really worried about that. At this point, I'm putting him on a a weaker K and 3betting. If he calls the 3bet and checks the river, I'm betting it (even if it's a third spade, I think you're ahead enough of the time to bet it). If he caps the turn and bets out on the river, I'd probably just call. I don't think he checks the river with a K or 5 and probably not a pocket pair either. Most players aren't going for a second check-raise on that river. After seeing the river check, I think he was trying to take the pot down on the turn on a flush draw, hoping that you hadn't hit the board and would release something such as AQ or maybe even a medium pocket pair. |
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
Bet/call the river. Looks like a flush draw to me.
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
I'd raise the turn, call a cap, and call the river if he capped the turn. His check on the river smells like eights. I'd bet the river in your situation, but raise the turn first as he could be c/ring the turn with a lot of hands you beat.
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
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I'd raise the turn, call a cap, and call the river if he capped the turn. His check on the river smells like eights. I'd bet the river in your situation, but raise the turn first as he could be c/ring the turn with a lot of hands you beat. [/ QUOTE ] IMO the results are affecting your opinions here duder. After we're check-raised on the turn we really can't 3-bet unless he's a complete LAG. |
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
At these limits the turn raise often means slowplayed something. Sometimes people try to checkraise you twice. I just check through to get more info on what villain is playing, take a note and wait for the next opportunity to extract more bets next time.
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Re: What is the \"standard play\" here
3bet the turn. a good thinking BB doesn't call many UTG raises w/ a 5. But still, we see something other than a 5 (a weaker K, a 7, say 88 or 99 or a draw) way more often.
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