I donk all street

[Roy6]

In a recent thread, Wynton asked when it's correct to donk.
I don't havy any reads as it's only my 2nd orbit.

In retrospect I think
-preflop is good
-flop is good
-turn is debatable
-river is awful (EV= -1 BB)

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.17 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (11.17 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 14.17 BB.

[Silverback]

I play preflop and flop the same.

My logic on the turn may be flawed, let me know

I check the turn as by betting out I have very little chance of winning the pot, betting into 3 other players,
also I dont want to get raised on this expensive street.
I would call a bet.

River I check fold.

[ArturiusX]

I usually mix it up between checking this flop and betting. Checking and seeing isn't a bad line, because it may give us a nice value c/r, which also disguises our hand nicely. Metagame stuff also comes in.

Turn I don't like, betting into this large field is suicide.

River bet makes me puke. Pretty clear the pocket pairs are calling down.

[stigmata]

Flop donk is good: Getting raised by the button would be good

Turn donk is bad: Against 3 players someone likely has something and is calling all the way. Getting raised would suck.

River donk is horrid: You win this pot about never.

[Spicymoose]

One more reason I hate this new word donk. I don´t think there is any clear concensus onto what it actually is. I was under the impression that only the flop was considered a donk, the rest are just continuations of the flop bet.

I think preflop is fine, but does anyone cap it? Flop looks good, but turn you should really just check, and river I think you already know how bad this is.

[flawless_victory]

yeah, donk bet is supposed to be a bet into the lead.
OP had the lead on turn/river, so those arent "donk bets"

seems like these terms are only really applicable to pots that are contested HU anyway...

[spydog]

I hate the flop. I'm checkraising this 100% of the time. It's the only chance you have of winning the pot unimproved. If they coldcall 2 or button 3-bets then great. But, I want to at least give myself a chance to win this without improving. Plus, it might give us more action when we hit because you are misrepresenting your hand on the flop when you checkraise.

Why is the turn bet horrid? He has almost equity and it disguises his hand.

[stigmata]

He doesn't even have equity if *everyone calls*. But what if just one player calls? Someone raises? I think check-call is a more profitable line.

[spydog]

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Why is the turn bet horrid? He has almost equity and it disguises his hand.

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I don't hate his turn bet. I said that I liked checkraising the flop.