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Old 11-19-2005, 02:50 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Interesting T9 hand?

Villain here is 46/10/2 after only 50 hands.

I think the preflop call is a bit loose, but I am trying to loosen up in the blinds, so is this an ok time to do so?

Is everything else standard?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (8 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Interesting T9 hand?

i think this is the type of player that the clarkmeister doesn't apply to. the river check/call seems fine here.

preflop is a call i would like to make, it's probably wrong but if so i'll let someone else tell you that.

all the other players are unknown? obviously the flop c/r is fine but betting might be better.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Interesting T9 hand?

i like the preflop call given the hand is three way. flop and turn look good. river i would probably bet/fold.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Interesting T9 hand?

I like the preflop call u gotta defend your blinds and though an UTG raise spells trouble I think this hand is one of the better defending hands.

I play it all the same. I don't know about wheels bet the flop line though it might be slightly better, but I prefer to chekraise whenever I'm continueing beyond the flop in a blind defense situation.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Interesting T9 hand?

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river i would probably bet/fold.

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Against an agro opponent I think that would be awful. First of all, I would like to induce from this guy. More importantly, using a bet/fold strategy opens us up to losing the whole pot when we are ahead. He can easily bluff raise this river.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Interesting T9 hand?

I like betting the flop here. I think it often helps to define the hands of the players acting behind you, so that you have more info to base your later street decisions on. specifically if there is a raise behind you and one caller for example, you can feel safe attempting a turn check/raise. If you c/r flop you are usually only getting in 1 BB on the turn when you're not beat, and sometimes you end up isolating with the flop c/r which sucks.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:10 PM
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i'm just wondering what he would call the turn with. i suppose it all boils down to if you think he will bet with more hands than he would call here.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:19 PM
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i'm just wondering what he would call the turn with. i suppose it all boils down to if you think he will bet with more hands than he would call here.

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You also have to factor in that if I bet, I have to call a raise, yet am often behind.
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Interesting T9 hand?

I don't think you have to call a raise on the river.
I think bet/fold the river is justified. Is he really going to raise without a spade?


I think the pre-flop call is standard.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:01 PM
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i'm just wondering what he would call the turn with. i suppose it all boils down to if you think he will bet with more hands than he would call here.

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You also have to factor in that if I bet, I have to call a raise, yet am often behind.

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you're often behind on the turn? or the river?
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