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Old 12-30-2005, 04:47 PM
TheHammer24 TheHammer24 is offline
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Do you really thinkg SB is 3-Betting this pf w.o JJ-AA with those stats?

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Top 5% of hands would be something like 99+, AJs+, KQs, AKo. You've got decent equity against this range. Note that his PFR matches his VP$IP - this leads me to believe one of two things: 1) He's raising almost every time he enters a pot (which means ALL the hands I mentioned above) 2) your read isn't very good. I think you're a decent poster - but I'm more inclined to believe #2. I can't ever recall seeing a 5% VP$IP player in several hundred thousand hands.

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He raises 5% of his hands. We should intuitively conclude that he 3 bets a lot less than that especially OP. Just because he's 5/5 doesn't mean he automatically plays AQs everytime for a raise regardless of circumstances. I'm thinking you are reading too far into this.

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I capped pf to take control of the hand in position. On the flop, a 3-bet puts a lot of bets in there when I'm likely behind of SB. [ QUOTE ]

Then why not fold the flop. If you're sure your behind - you don't have odds to continue. Fold. Otherwise.... raise that [censored] up. You've got plenty of equity against a reasonable SB range and the donkey.

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I think that this was the way to play the hand.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:17 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

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Top 5% of hands would be something like 99+, AJs+, KQs, AK.

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This is correct. The rest of your reasoning is way off imo. First of all when I read a post I assume the stats are over a decent ammount of hands, at least 200+, unless OP points out that the read is vague. I don't think analysing how the stats look and judge how many hands they are over is what we should be focusing on doing when replying to a post. Btw, when his stats is 5.5/4.5 it suggests that 1 hand is at least 1% and because of that this sample is at least 100 hands big, probably bigger.

SB raises 5% of his hands, that's including blind steals and openraising, yet he's still not raising more than 5%. Add to that he's extremely tight which probably don't makes him unpredictable or acting on random. I think he's 3-bet oop tells us pretty clear that we're dealing with really strong hand, AA-QQ is likely his range, add a few discounted AK/JJ combos and you're still in a really bad shape.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:26 PM
Joe Tall Joe Tall is offline
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Default Re: Wierd Hand

If you have a good amount of hand versus the SB, capping preflop may not gain you all that much with the SB super tight PFR range.

3-bet this flop, if the SB has AK, you've got a good chance to blow it off since he seems so weak and you can face the LAG HU.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:28 PM
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You get 3bet preflop by a weakie who raises pf 4.5% of the time? And you cap? You'll need a J to win 95% of the time here, capping is spewage.

Now SB donks the flop, so you have 8-1 from the pot with probably 2 outs. Nice. Calling is absolutely HORRIBLE. If you 3bet, you can get UTG to donate with his 77 or whatever, and SB, could have AdKd I guess. I'm probably folding though.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:49 PM
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I am folding the flop, SB has you pummeled.
I am not sure if I'd cap preflop against a timid players reraise.
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