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Old 09-03-2005, 02:35 PM
setzf setzf is offline
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Default Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)

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Reads would be helpful from OP. (ie. is BB a total donk or could he be sitting on a set here?)

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Read on UTG

UTG joined the table after I sat down. He bought in short at 132.50 (telling me it's his whole account balance). He posted BB as the CO on his first hand. He did show down a limp re-raise once and showed J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Though he check-called when he missed the flop. His VPIP was 64%.

Read on BB

BB a donk. He had a stat of 54% VPIP. He started the hand shortstacked with $61.19 that seemed to be all he had. Here is a good example of his donkish-ness. He is the <font color="red">small blind</font> in this hand:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $4.
UTG (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

River: (2.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 4.16 BB

Results below:
SB has 6c 9h (one pair, jacks). <font color="red"> Why did he call the river with nine high?</font>
Button has Ah 6s (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 4.16 BB.

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Im curious why you didn't bet the turn here.
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Old 09-03-2005, 02:39 PM
paperboyNC paperboyNC is offline
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Default the \"other hand\"

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Im curious why you didn't bet the turn here.

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With a 2BB pot, it's not profitable to bet 1BB here. If anyone had a 7 or a J, they weren't likely to bet them on the flop, but they may call or raise here.

Thinking players might bluff-raise forcing me to fold and I don't even have position to take a free showdown. Let's say someone with AJ calls. I check the river and he bets. Then what?

I probably would have called the river had the SB not called.
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Old 09-03-2005, 05:11 PM
setzf setzf is offline
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Default Re: the \"other hand\"

thanks for the reply, i ask becuase i think this might be a leak in my game, that is fighting for small pots out of position with just a small pair.
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Old 09-03-2005, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with the nut flush draw? (boring)

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Im curious why you didn't bet the turn here.

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I believe, that in situations like this, you make more money ck/calling with weak hands like this, then getting out of line. It accomplishes a lot more, even if you don't win the hand. I would have called the river for the purpose of declaring what I called the river with, not with the expectation of winning.
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