WSOP last night and Sam Farha - Page 4

ddubois · #31 10-13-2005, 05:29 PM

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black 7s are 7.3% more likely to beat red aces than black 3s are.

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Huh?
7s 7c 343300 20.05 1364608 79.69 4396 0.26 0.202
3s 3c 319884 18.68 1384984 80.88 7436 0.43 0.189

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0.189 * 1.07 = 0.202

nath · #32 10-13-2005, 05:57 PM

Oh. Yeah, I can't do math. Or I wasn't thinking of it in those terms.

augie00 · #33 10-13-2005, 07:32 PM

The best part about this hand was how the UTG donkey bet 6,000 on the flop. LMAO. 6k. Nice bet.

FrankStallone · #34 10-13-2005, 07:39 PM

your standard 20 times the big blind raise.

JudoGirl · #35 10-13-2005, 08:20 PM

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My bad on position. Now that I think back on it, I guess he did check the flop and then raise after AA bet. Here's my logic on why it is a correct call.

Set flops about 1 in 7 times. AA has about $10,000T, Farha calls about $1,500 knowing that if he flops a set he wins the 10K. Even if he doesn't flop a set, he could still outplay after the flop (Villain could have AK, miss the flop and get passive?), or fold if he truly believes he is beat.

That coupled with the fact that the call does not cut into Farha's already big stack make the play justifiable IMO.

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I think this logic is very wrong. I don't think the big blind was 500--it was much smaller (like 50, i think). The guy raise to 2k!!! Calling that does not pay off even if Farah stacks him the times he hits his set and it holds up.

CheckRaise · #36 10-13-2005, 10:15 PM

I think I read somewhere that the guy making the 20bb raise actually had a stack of 14,000 not 10,000, Farha knows that if he hits his set he can stack the guy so his implied odds are huge.

SGS · #37 10-13-2005, 11:25 PM

I like the raise to 1k PF with blinds at 50/100 even better. The blinds may have even been at 25/50, not sure.

SGS

Malachii · #38 10-14-2005, 12:53 AM

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Like the AA (UTG) raiser and he calls with 33. Flops the set and takes the guys cash. Calling with 33 vs an UTG raiser is a no-no in every book.

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You obviously know absolutely nothing about deep stacked big bet poker.

Dr. Strangelove · #39 10-14-2005, 02:51 AM

If farha called 15% of the stack of whoever was shallower, heads up with 33 and no means of outplaying the tard, it was a bad call. Farha cannot possibly come out ahead playing this same matchup over and over. If you don't see why may god have mercy on your soul.

#40 10-14-2005, 07:15 AM

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But he got way more than the implied odds hitting the set.

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13% to hit set on flop and to make things simple about 1% chance they both hit sets. Not to mention once they get it AI on a flop where farha makes a set and the other doesn't, he has to dodge an ace on the turn and river.

Making the numbers really easy we'll say this all works out and farha stacks him 11% of the time there. So calling 1000 to win 10000 11ish% of the time is "way more than the implied odds" you say?