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#21
09-29-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
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Since most people seem to be advocating to call here, I'd say good players should be pushing AA, KK after someone raises [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol, funny 
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#23
09-29-2005, 03:15 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
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Hero's stack size is not an important factor here. 800 chips is plenty to work with, and can't justify making a bad call. If you think a call is -EV, why on earth would you call just because you 'only' have 800 chips? The important factor here is the SB's range. If we can agree on that, the rest is just math. [/ QUOTE ] And we loop round to my original post. I'm glad you guys got there in the end.
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#24
09-29-2005, 03:17 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
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[ QUOTE ] Auto call. [/ QUOTE ] Whoah... I do not know about that. To be honest I think this is AA or KK alot more than you do. I'll let the call fold debate continue, but this is not an autocall. [/ QUOTE ] Then you will lose a of of pots that you should have won.
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#26
09-29-2005, 03:22 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I was never advocating a fold... [/ QUOTE ] cool, then you would be correct [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#27
09-29-2005, 03:37 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
In response to the plethora of posts after my last one...
I think with starting stacks of 1k, having 800 when blinds reach 25/50 isn't really the best situation to be in. It's not horrible or anything, but I'd MUCH rather have t1800 to play with. You can do things this forum hates, like see flops and such. For me, and I know I'm going against the majority here, but it actually isn't a simple of question of math. I never said that I put villain on a range any different than anyone else did. That's why I keep repeating that you do have the odds to call. I just said that I don't call every single time that I have the odds to. In a cash game, this would lose you money. In tournament play, it doesn't necessarily lose you money because you might can get chips in a less risky way than taking coinflips early for huge pots. If you think this is your best chance to build a stack, then call. If you think you can build a stack by other means, then folding becomes a more viable option. I really don't think there's a "right" or "wrong" way to play this hand. I won't ever hate any call that anyone makes if they're given proper odds. When the odds are just slightly in someone's favor, I might not like the call as much as folding though. That's all I was saying. Sorry that it got everyone so riled up. Edit: And I'll edit to say that this idea might be more useful in MTT's where you have more time to accumulate chips than you do in a SNG. Which is why I like folding with a larger stack more. Because a larger stack bides you more time to build a stack without pre-flop pushing.
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#28
09-29-2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Auto call. [/ QUOTE ] Whoah... I do not know about that. To be honest I think this is AA or KK alot more than you do. I'll let the call fold debate continue, but this is not an autocall. [/ QUOTE ] Then you will lose a of of pots that you should have won. [/ QUOTE ] Alright, since we're going with the smart ass responses: No.
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#29
09-29-2005, 03:46 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
I don't think anyone's riled up [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Difference of opinions is a GOOD thing in poker. Otherwise everyone would be as good/bad as everyone else. Yes, there are situations where you can fold AK preflop - I'm not saying this is always a call. But in this situation it certainly is. I've said my peace and I'm not going to argue with it further. It's decisions like these that separate the good players from the bad players.
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#30
09-29-2005, 03:55 PM
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Re: $55: Mystified. Do donks still do this in the 55\'s?
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Yes, there are situations where you can fold AK preflop - I'm not saying this is always a call. But in this situation it certainly is. [/ QUOTE ] I think you missed the part of the thread where I changed my mind to "it's a call"... just not for the same reason you said. In my last post or 2, I was talking more in general, less about this specific hand. [ QUOTE ] It's decisions like these that separate the good players from the bad players. [/ QUOTE ] I hope I just missed a joke here.
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