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Old 08-21-2004, 10:03 PM
jayadd jayadd is offline
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Default anyone play Pan?

i have been playing online and wondering how a live game is set up for this. It seems like a hard game for a dealer to control with so much info.
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Old 08-22-2004, 08:52 AM
Gahnia radula Gahnia radula is offline
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Default Re: anyone play Pan?

Never heard of it, could u explain it?

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Old 08-22-2004, 02:23 PM
FeliciaLee FeliciaLee is offline
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Default Re: anyone play Pan?

I haven't met many dealers who like dealing Pan, lol. The guys at the Plaza seem to have the best attitude about it.

I like Pan, but it gives me a headache to play, so I just don't play it anymore. If, for some reason, I lost my whole bankroll, and needed money, I would most likely go to LA and get it built back up again playing Pan.

For Gahnia, here you go:

The object of Pan poker is to be the first to meld all 10 cards in your hand, in addition to the final card drawn. Pan poker uses 8 decks with one set of spades removed and all the 8's, 9's and 10's removed, for a total of 310 cards. In descending order, the cards rank K, Q, J, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, A. The J and 7 are sequential.
Play goes counterclockwise.
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Panguingue is a rummy-type game played with eight standard 52-card decks with the 8's, 9's, and 10's removed, for a total of 320 cards. No jokers are used. Cards in each suit rank king (high), queen, jack, seven, six, etc. with aces being low. The cards are dealt counterclockwise

Players strive to meld eleven cards in valid sets of three or more cards. There are two kinds of melds: a rope which must be string of cards of matching suits, squares consisting of the ranks 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, Jack or Queen. Squares must be either all cards of different suits or all the same suit. Squares consisting of Kings or Aces qualify regardless of suit. There are no betting rounds in the game.

Each player is dealt 10 cards to meld into sets and sequences with certain cards having special values. Each player, in turn, draws either a card from the top of the remaining deck or from the top of an adjacent discard pile. This sequence of play continues until one player goes out with a total meld of eleven cards, including the card(s) just drawn. Melds (or spread) must be at least three cards, and it may be as many as eleven. The melds are classified as ropes and squares. The rope is any three cards in sequence of the same suit. A square is a set of three cards in the same rank and of different suits or of the same suit. All 3s, 5s and 7s are valle cards (cards of value). Cards of other rank are non-valle. Any three aces or any three kings form a set, regardless of the suit.

Example:

Rope: A*2*3*4*5* or J*Q*K. Ropes must be of matching suits.

Square: 4*4*4*, 7*7*7*, or J*J*J*. Squares consisting of the ranks, 2,3,4,5,6,7, Jack or Queen must be either all cards of different suits or all of the same unit. Squares consisting of Kings or Aces qualify regardless of suit.

Certain melds are called Konditions. Konditions are generally:

Any set of valle cards not in the same suit - 1 chip

Any set of valle cards, in the same suit - 4 chips in Spades, 2 chips in any other suit

Any set of non-valle cards, in the same suit - 2 chips in Spades, 1 chip in any other suit

Any sequence of Ace, 2, 3 in the same - 2 chips in Spades, 1 chip in any other suit

Any sequence of K, Q, J in the same suit - 2 chips in Spades, 1 chip in any other suit

When a player wins with melding eleven cards. The player collects chips from every other player and also collects all over again for each kondition in their cards. There are no ties in Pan.

http://caag.state.ca.us/gambling/game/panguingue.htm
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Pan which is also known as Panguingue is currently popular in California and Southern Florida. Of course, the Internet is now making this game popular around the world. The object is to be the first to meld all 10 cards in your hand, in addition to the final card drawn.

Pan uses 8 decks with one set of spades removed and all the 8s, 9s, and 10s removed for a total of 310 cards. In descending order, the cards are ranked K, Q, J, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, A. The J and the 7 are sequential. Play goes counterclockwise.
The Start
After all players post collection, the hand will be dealt. Each player that posted will receive 10 cards. At this point they have the option of keeping their hand and playing, or sluffing their hand and sitting out the current hand.

The Play
Each player in turn takes the top card of either the discard pile or the stock. A player may take from the discard pile only if the card was drawn from the stock by the preceding player, and can be immediately melded with the cards in the taker's hand. When a player draws from the stock, he must meld the card or discard it.
After drawing and before discarding, a player may meld as many sets as he holds or add to his existing melds. A player must drag a drawn card to his meld zone before any cards from his hand can be added to the meld zone.

If a player uses a drawn card to build one or more melds, he must end his turn by discarding a single card from his hand. This is done by dragging the desired card from his hand to the discard pile. If he has no remaining cards in his hand to discard and has all 11 cards in valid melds, the hand is finished. See Going Out.

Sequence
A run of any 3 or more cards of the same suit, e.g. Q J 7 .
Set
3 or more cards of the same rank that are of only one suit, or of at least three different suits. e.g. 4 4 4. Ace's and King's are an exception to this rule, which only need three of any suit.Ace's and King's are an exception to this rule, and do not need to be of the same suit or of three different suits, they only need three of any suit. Once 3 cards of the same rank of the same suit or of three different suits have been melded, any number of additional cards of the same rank of any suit can be added to that meld.

Conditions
Certain melds are conditions. On melding a condition, a player immediately collects chips from every other player. All 3's, 5's, and 7's are valle (pronounced "valley") cards. The conditions are:
A set of three same ranked but different suite valle cards collects a chip from each player.
A set of three valle cards of a single suit collects 2 chips, 4 chips if the suit is spades. Also, 1 additional chip is collected for each additional valle card of the same suit added beyond the initial three cards,2 chips if the suit is spades.
A set of three non-valle cards of a single suit collects 1 chip, 2 chips if the suit is spades. Also, 1 additional chip is collected for each additional non-valle card of the same suit added beyond the initial three cards,2 chips if the suit is spades.
A sequence starting with an Ace or ending with a King, e.g. (3, 2, A) or (K, Q, J), collects 1 chip, 2 chips if the suit is spades.

Increasing
A player may add cards to a meld if its character is preserved, i.e. he may add a card of the same rank to a suited or unsuited set. When cards are added, the player may collect further chips if additional conditions have been met as described above.

Splitting
A meld can be halved by adding cards if each half forms a meld. E.g.: J, 7, 6, 5 may be halved into melds by adding Q, 4. If splitting a meld creates a condition, payment is collected. A player can take a card from a meld to complete a new meld, provided he leaves a valid meld. E.g.: From 7, 6, 5, 4, either the 7 or 4 may be borrowed, but not both

Forcing Cards
If the top of the discard pile can be added to a meld of a person playing in turn, he must take the card and meld it.

Going Out
When a player shows 11 cards in melds (10 cards plus his final draw card), he collects the value of all his conditions, plus two chips from each player and collects the tops pot.

Next Hand
After the pot has been won, all the players put in chips for the next hand. The winner of the previous hand goes first.

http://www.poker-gaming-zone.com/pan.htm


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Old 08-22-2004, 08:28 PM
Gahnia radula Gahnia radula is offline
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Default Re: anyone play Pan?

I think I get it, it sounds like a varient of Red Ace

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Old 08-24-2004, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: anyone play Pan?

felicia tigergaming has pan online i play there all the time a nice break from the poker action thats how i learned.
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