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Old 11-21-2005, 02:42 PM
istewart istewart is offline
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hand 1 i like. hand 2 can you explain? 2 overs, backdoor flush and gutshot. i heard that its 0 EV plus fold equity but i may be mistaken.

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Old 11-21-2005, 02:57 PM
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I think I would play the second hand like this 50% of time like you did.

You're 3:2 (if one pair is good) against an underpair plus the backdoor draw. I don't think I would do this against more than two opponents. this is pretty standard for me if it's heads up.
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:34 PM
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I like betting especially since its Party 10/20 full. They seem to fold a lot in my limited experience.
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:38 PM
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I like the second hand better.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:09 PM
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do people often have that read on you? "decent TAG, sometimes bets a gutshot but BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE HE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE!" i would take the path that i consider the most immidiate +ev every time, and i'd say that if your oppos really are good enough to take advantage of your betting patterns on specific situations like this one, there's probably plenty of softer 10/20 tables.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:52 PM
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A bet on this flop will throw the other players off for the rest of this session. They get confused when you bet because your hand ranges are wider. If you see these players again and don't bet this flop omfg are they truly confused. Confusion leads to FTOP errors. Yay.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:44 PM
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i think a good question is how would you play these hands if one of the limpers raises you on the flop.

FWIW, i would call hand 1 and 3 bet hand 2
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:12 PM
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well, thing is, i think mixing it up is tremendously overrated and in most cases really just an excuse to ignore EV. the players that are aware of your capability to semibluff with a gutshot+overs on this board should also be aware of your mixed plays etc.
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