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Old 09-26-2005, 05:11 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

ok i wont talk about myself in the third person but this hand became an instant post as soon as i played it i felt.

good 40 live game. i had Qh6h on the button and limped after 3 limpers who play bad and one who plays good. the blinds called. 7 of us.

the flop was 6c5d3d. bb who is an okay very young kid who wins im sure and likes to read hands and lay hands down, but also knows i sometimes make plays at pots, bets. two limpers call meaning just about nothing and i raise. he 3 bets, the worst limper calls, and i call.

the turn is Ad. he bets, limper folds, and i raise.

ill stop the action there and see what you guys think.
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Old 09-26-2005, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

I am pretty sure you just want one BB going in on both the turn and river.

Edit: I say this mostly because I think he has a flush draw on the flop a decent percent of the time here. So if he 3bets the turn you should probably fold. But I don't want to fold against this aggressive player who is gonna take shots. So I call.
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Old 09-26-2005, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

I like it assuming you are done with the hand barring improvement on the river.

The A is clearly a scare card, you get a freeshowdown when you want it, and you pick up an extra bet on the river when you improve. All this, with the fold equity, makes it likeable.


-blake
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

checking the river unimproved right?
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

Assuming you want us to ignore the preflop limp it looks good. Just hope he doesn't donkbet the river.
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:04 AM
KdoubleK KdoubleK is offline
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Default Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

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I am pretty sure you just want one BB going in on both the turn and river.

Edit: I say this mostly because I think he has a flush draw on the flop a decent percent of the time here. So if he 3bets the turn you should probably fold. But I don't want to fold against this aggressive player who is gonna take shots. So I call.

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If you're gonna put 2 BBs into this pot then you need to put them in on the turn. If he 3 bets then you're just done. Unless Mike's left eye twitches twice every time he bluffs and he hums the theme to Bonanza then villain is almost never making a play here. What sucks is a donkbet on the river cause now you're putting in 3 BBs.
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:22 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Assuming you want us to ignore the preflop limp it looks good.

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What's wrong with the preflop limp?
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:58 AM
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Why not just call on the flop and raise the turn if a blank hits (or fold if the turn brings action in front of you)?
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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bb who is an okay very young kid who wins im sure and likes to read hands and lay hands down, but also knows i sometimes make plays at pots

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This makes it much more likely your turn raise is for value right?
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: the old mike l. rears his ugly head?

He has a set.
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