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Old 12-13-2005, 09:45 PM
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Default Inter 20/40 Hand: How should I approach this turn and river?

5-handed 20/40

It's only been about 3 orbits and all opponents are new to me. I haven't done anything interesting yet so opponents have no read on me.

UTG: A little loose passive preflop (40/13ish) and passive postflop.

SB: Pretty aggressive preflop (36/22ish) and very tricky, aggressive postflop. From what I've seen postflop he likes to test opponents ever chance he gets. Fights for every pot he's in. Anyway...

Hero gets A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB

UTG raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, both call.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets...

At this point I was pretty much lost on how to approach the rest of the hand. Any thoughts?

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Old 12-13-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Inter 20/40 Hand: How should I approach this turn and river?

Is it wrong for me to say call? UTG is playing awful suspecious.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Inter 20/40 Hand: How should I approach this turn and river?

call and call if utg raises bc you have odds for a 4 outer.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: Inter 20/40 Hand: How should I approach this turn and river?

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Is it wrong for me to say call? UTG is playing awful suspecious.

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Well, after SBs preflop/flop action I could safely narrow his range down to a King, Ten, straight or flush draw. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] I assumed UTG's range was likely the same.

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Old 12-13-2005, 10:08 PM
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Default Turn Action and River

Moving on (impatient...sorry)

Board: [K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets, I call, UTG calls

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

SB bets, Hero?...

Simple call? Consider a raise?

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Old 12-13-2005, 10:22 PM
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i would just call but im not sure its best.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:02 AM
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no one considering a cap on the flop? Might knock out UTG which would help.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:25 AM
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no one considering a cap on the flop?

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The only choice IMO.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Inter 20/40 Hand: How should I approach this turn and river?

Hmm.. you were raising a non-spade turn? I like that idea. I like calling turn when the spade hits and calling one raise like vic says then folding river ui.

I think the river is a call but it's pretty close. A big problem is that even though we can pretty well rule out a T from SB's hand since he wouldn't want to lead into us on the flop and knock out UTG a flush draw seems quite fitting, and we really can't fold to a 3-bet against such an aggro player. Calling might also get UTG to call with a K that he'd fold to a raise. There are also benefits to raising but I don't think they amount to enough.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:34 AM
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I think the river is a call but it's pretty close

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i dont think the river is close at all. he will see kq and ak often enough.
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