NL25 River decision - Spewage?

[kitaristi0]

From Villain's bet speed on the river (über fast), I had a feeling he didn't have the ace. With no read, is this an easy fold?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($27.45)
UTG+1 ($8)
MP1 ($8.65)
Hero ($25)
CO ($14.40)
Button ($25.60)
SB ($60.25)
BB ($24.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.60.

Flop: ($1.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.25</font>, BB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4.30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($4.30) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.3</font>, Hero uses up his all his time and calls $4.30.

Final Pot: $12.90

[scrapperdog]

Yep, spew.

Speaking for myself, if there is a pause it is often because I am trying to figure out if this is a good time to run a bluff. I dont like to chuck my chips in there without taking a second to decide if it is a good idea.

If I do have the goods then once in a while I take some time just to make up for those other times when I was bluffing. This avoids the pause being a 100% solid tell. But 85% of the time I push my chips in as fast as I can to get him to make a decision quick, I dont want to give him extra time to talk his way out of it. I want a reflex call, not a well thought out fold.

In other words, when I push em in really fast it is almost never a bluff.

[KSakuraba]

I don't have a lot of experience from 25NL but from what i've seen, that would be a really dumb spot to bluff in limits where people play A-rag all the time...so if villain isn't a complete donkey, i think i'd insta-muck.

[kitaristi0]

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I don't have a lot of experience from 25NL but from what i've seen, that would be a really dumb spot to bluff in limits where people play A-rag all the time...so if villain isn't a complete donkey, i think i'd insta-muck.

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Sure they play ace-rag at 25NL all the time, but the only hands I was really worried about were AJ and A3, since Villain called the flop. Of course A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is a possibility too.

He might be full of crap, but its doesnt hurt to cut your losses. You can afford to let the buck fifty go this time.
Thats a pretty scary board to bluff out of position into. If hes that reckless, you'll hose him later when you do have the ace.

[kitaristi0]

FWIW, Hero calls and opponent turns over KQo for a slowplayed two pair. Heros read is spot on and MHIG.

[Hattifnatt]

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With no read, is this an easy fold?

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I definitely think it is even if your straight is longer than his [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img].

[rachelwxm]

fold because it's very likely for you to have the ace