20% ITM on all Stars MTT's - Page 3

ononimo · #21 12-01-2005, 12:53 AM

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i .. don't agree. this is going to be bad for the better players. It's going to increase "bad" players EV. So where do they get this EV from? It comes from somewhere, and i dont thin kit's just a simple adjustment to get it back. The structure favors them.

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miajag81 · #22 12-01-2005, 01:00 AM

How are you saying it helps bad players? Does it increase the luck factor somehow? If so, how?

Exitonly · #23 12-01-2005, 01:06 AM

If you felt that you were a bad player, like had a significant disadvantage vs the field. Would you rather play in a tournament that pays the top 10%? Or the top 20%?

miajag81 · #24 12-01-2005, 01:08 AM

Would it matter? I'll make the money more often but earn less with the 20% structure, and less often but earning more with 10%.

Forgive me if I am being difficult and/or retarded here, I'm just failing to see how the structure makes a difference.

#25 12-01-2005, 01:13 AM

I think the opposite view is that a good player won't finish in that 10-20% range often enough to offset the money lost when finishing in the top 10%.

Exitonly · #26 12-01-2005, 01:15 AM

absolutely it would matter, a better player is way more likely to turn a top 20% finish into a top 10% one, than a bad player is.

So these bad players stalling out in the 10-20% range is where the better players lose the money.

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i think a bad players ITM% would go up much more than a good players % would from this change.

ansky451 · #27 12-01-2005, 01:16 AM

Because the longer you play, the more mistakes you will make if you are a donkey, combined with the fact that the field gets tougher as the tournament goes on.

Exitonly · #28 12-01-2005, 01:19 AM

Though, one positive could be that w/ more people getting money, the "fish" won't get discouraged as easily, so maybe it'll keep them playing tournaments longer. so MAYBE theres a long term +EV bonus. but meh.

miajag81 · #29 12-01-2005, 01:20 AM

Ok, I get what you are saying now.

Hotrod0823 · #30 12-01-2005, 01:45 AM

I agree with what you are saying but the guy playing 1,2 buck tournies for fun is just happy to make the money.

As far as stalling around the bubble I don't that is really too bad. The pay ranges are pretty big at the start and don't start increasing until much after 9 tables remain.

The bigger question is how many people would be loving it if they paid 20% at the WSOP in 2006?