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How bad is this flop raise?
No read on MP2, aside from a name that screams "action player." So that can't be counted on. Guilty till proven innocent. Button, BB, UTG are standard loose passives.
I really don't like the cold call PF. Might as well try to muff all the streets. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG folds, MP2 calls. Oops. |
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
Was it a value raise on your overcard + backdoor gutshot straight + backdoor flush + backdoor "two-pair draw"? Or were you hoping to fold everyone? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
Preflop is bad, I consider re-raising or folding.
Fold the flop. This should be standard for you. |
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
Re-raise pre-flop, fold flop
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
Okey doke, thanks.
If you're gonna screw something up, screw it up good. |
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
icky icky preflop CC.. either fold or 3bet kinda read dependant.
close between calling and folding for me, def not raising |
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
I think coldcalling is ok there. Reraise OK also, but I would coldcall I fold flop all day long
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
Faced with a preflop raise (after one limper) from an action player, I prefer a preflop 3-bet. Against someone more sensible, I don't really have a problem with the cold-call. In any event, I like it better than folding, I think.
I guess the flop raise is an attempt to make up for the missed preflop 3-bet, but I'm thinking it might be a little late. If you'd gotten it heads-up versus the action player, though, that would've been a good result, I think. Anyway, given the preflop action, I'd probably just peel on the flop, if that. (I might fold instead, fearing a raise or checkraise behind me.) |
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
Well, that was sort of the plan with the flop raise (getting the field to fold behind), as much as there was a plan. The BB stuck his nose in ... so much for that.
By the time it was my action on the flop, there had been two donk bet opportunities declined and MP2 was going to bet any 2. This thus convinced me that I wasn't going to fold. I'd rather raise and maybe get MP2 HU. Maybe even hit the jackpot and get a free card. I'm not saying it was a good plan, just that it wasn't a totally random and stupid play. Certainly not random. |
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Re: How bad is this flop raise?
No one peels on this flop?
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