I hate KK

moot · #1 05-12-2005, 05:45 PM

How the hell do I play this?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero folds, BB calls.

River: (13.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has 3h 6h (one pair, aces).
UTG has Jh Th (one pair, aces).
UTG+1 has 7h Qh (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 13.25 BB.

WarLordAG · #2 05-12-2005, 05:50 PM

It depends on if you've had any reads, but if I had just sat down at this table, I would have folded it too, and probably not raised the flop.

Far too often if an A drops in low limit, you're done. They play any A, any kicker, to any raise.

tiltaholic · #3 05-12-2005, 05:52 PM

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It depends on if you've had any reads, but if I had just sat down at this table, I would have folded it too, and probably not raised the flop.

Far too often if an A drops in low limit, you're done. They play any A, any kicker, to any raise.

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often this is incorrect. as shown here.

toss · #4 05-12-2005, 05:58 PM

But theres a really good chance were done when 5 players ee the turn for two bets.

moot · #5 05-12-2005, 06:06 PM

It's okay, the poker gods just paid me back. I meant to just finish out the rotation and kicked myself when it posted the BB. Until I finished the hand of course. I didn't cap on the flop because it looked like I was behind a flopped straight (I was right) and I wanted others to stick around. Bet the turn cuz I figured the LP would raise. HOORAY! And don't tell me to raise this preflop. Out of position I just think it's stupid.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, Button calls.

River: (17.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

droolie · #6 05-12-2005, 06:08 PM

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And don't tell me to raise this preflop.

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Raise pf!

gvibes · #7 05-12-2005, 07:22 PM

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I didn't cap on the flop because it looked like I was behind a flopped straight (I was right) and I wanted others to stick around.

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Even if they turned over a straight, you should still have capped. You have tremendous equity 4-way.

toss · #8 05-12-2005, 05:50 PM

Without reads I'd fold it just like you did.

tiltaholic · #9 05-12-2005, 05:51 PM

you need reads.
w/o a read sometimes i call down, sometimes i fold.
i lean towards folding as you did.

droolie · #10 05-12-2005, 05:51 PM

Don't beat yourself up. The times you lose a pot like this to three guys with flush draws will be very slim. You played it well. You will be shown a weak A or two pair 98% of the time by one of these clowns.