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12-02-2005, 11:46 PM
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Negreanu should read the STTF
Quoted from his article on the Borgata:
[ QUOTE ] ...So, instead of giving up the lead, I decided to make a half-value/half-defensive bet of $3,600; value in hope of getting paid off by a worse pair than mine, and defensive in that I might be forced to call a much larger bet if I checked. A bet like this is a pretty common tool, but it isn’t talked about too much in the literature. Generally, a bet on the river has a clear purpose: It’s either a bluff or a value bet. However, a bet like this is one in which you are doing more than just value betting; you also are protecting yourself, or saving yourself money in many cases in which you may have been forced to check and call a large river bet. D. Negreanu [/ QUOTE ] It's called a blocking bet, no0b, and 7,000 18-year old yahoos on this forum know about it. Seriously, though, the article describes the play of a hand that is quite interesting. It's posted on pokerpages.com. Irieguy 
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#3
12-03-2005, 01:18 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
What! There's other things to read besides 2+2? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#4
12-03-2005, 01:40 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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Quoted from his article on the Borgata: [ QUOTE ] ...So, instead of giving up the lead, I decided to make a half-value/half-defensive bet of $3,600; value in hope of getting paid off by a worse pair than mine, and defensive in that I might be forced to call a much larger bet if I checked. A bet like this is a pretty common tool, but it isn’t talked about too much in the literature. Generally, a bet on the river has a clear purpose: It’s either a bluff or a value bet. However, a bet like this is one in which you are doing more than just value betting; you also are protecting yourself, or saving yourself money in many cases in which you may have been forced to check and call a large river bet. D. Negreanu [/ QUOTE ] It's called a blocking bet, no0b, and 7,000 18-year old yahoos on this forum know about it. Seriously, though, the article describes the play of a hand that is quite interesting. It's posted on pokerpages.com. Irieguy [/ QUOTE ] Does it matter if Daniel N doesn't use the same terminology as 7000 18-year old yahoos on this forum as long as he knows what he's talking about?
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#5
12-03-2005, 02:08 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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[ QUOTE ] Quoted from his article on the Borgata: [ QUOTE ] ...So, instead of giving up the lead, I decided to make a half-value/half-defensive bet of $3,600; value in hope of getting paid off by a worse pair than mine, and defensive in that I might be forced to call a much larger bet if I checked. A bet like this is a pretty common tool, but it isn’t talked about too much in the literature. Generally, a bet on the river has a clear purpose: It’s either a bluff or a value bet. However, a bet like this is one in which you are doing more than just value betting; you also are protecting yourself, or saving yourself money in many cases in which you may have been forced to check and call a large river bet. D. Negreanu [/ QUOTE ] It's called a blocking bet, no0b, and 7,000 18-year old yahoos on this forum know about it. Seriously, though, the article describes the play of a hand that is quite interesting. It's posted on pokerpages.com. Irieguy [/ QUOTE ] Does it matter if Daniel N doesn't use the same terminology as 7000 18-year old yahoos on this forum as long as he knows what he's talking about? [/ QUOTE ] When somebody uses the phrase "seriously, though," it implies that the prior sentiment was expressed in jest. A phrase like this is a pretty common tool, but it isn't talked about much in the literature. I shouldn't have used such an abstruse technique to satirize what I find to be an interesting contrast: published/publicized poker literature v. publicly accessible poker ramblings available on forums like this one. Irieguy
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#6
12-03-2005, 02:21 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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Does it matter if Daniel N doesn't use the same terminology as 7000 18-year old yahoos on this forum as long as he knows what he's talking about? [/ QUOTE ] Daniel? Is that you?
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#7
12-03-2005, 02:33 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Quoted from his article on the Borgata: [ QUOTE ] ...So, instead of giving up the lead, I decided to make a half-value/half-defensive bet of $3,600; value in hope of getting paid off by a worse pair than mine, and defensive in that I might be forced to call a much larger bet if I checked. A bet like this is a pretty common tool, but it isn’t talked about too much in the literature. Generally, a bet on the river has a clear purpose: It’s either a bluff or a value bet. However, a bet like this is one in which you are doing more than just value betting; you also are protecting yourself, or saving yourself money in many cases in which you may have been forced to check and call a large river bet. D. Negreanu [/ QUOTE ] It's called a blocking bet, no0b, and 7,000 18-year old yahoos on this forum know about it. Seriously, though, the article describes the play of a hand that is quite interesting. It's posted on pokerpages.com. Irieguy [/ QUOTE ] Does it matter if Daniel N doesn't use the same terminology as 7000 18-year old yahoos on this forum as long as he knows what he's talking about? [/ QUOTE ] When somebody uses the phrase "seriously, though," it implies that the prior sentiment was expressed in jest. A phrase like this is a pretty common tool, but it isn't talked about much in the literature. I shouldn't have used such an abstruse technique to satirize what I find to be an interesting contrast: published/publicized poker literature v. publicly accessible poker ramblings available on forums like this one. Irieguy [/ QUOTE ] Ok. Is there a serious point you're trying to make of value that we all can learn from or did you just feel like poking fun?
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#8
12-03-2005, 02:36 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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The blocking bet is pretty advanced stuff for most people. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe, but Daniel N doesn't have to use 'blocking bet' in his vocabulary and he's still advanced.
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#9
12-03-2005, 02:38 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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Ok. Is there a serious point you're trying to make of value that we all can learn from or did you just feel like poking fun? [/ QUOTE ] Mostly poking a little fun, but also explaining why I posted the dumb comment to begin with. Irieguy
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#10
12-03-2005, 02:42 AM
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Re: Negreanu should read the STTF
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[ QUOTE ] Ok. Is there a serious point you're trying to make of value that we all can learn from or did you just feel like poking fun? [/ QUOTE ] Mostly poking a little fun, but also explaining why I posted the dumb comment to begin with. Irieguy [/ QUOTE ] You get an extra forty sack of Chocolate Thai for honesty. I'll be waiting on your $22 and $33 HHs after you put the blunt out. Oh, and be quick about it.
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