Value Bet This?

nervous · #1 08-08-2005, 04:38 PM

Villian is like 30/4/2

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Button folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (4 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets...

I put him on mid pair or top pair, so I'd say I'm behind on this river, no? I was bet/folding this river.

Comments?

Buck_65 · #2 08-08-2005, 04:58 PM

I might just check/call the river to induce a bluff. You don't really mind it being checked through in my opinion. The flush draw isn't calling a bet, the 8 just rivered you, and you were behind a T the whole way anyway. Maybe I'm way off base here, but I prefer a check/call on the river.

TheMetetron · #3 08-08-2005, 05:15 PM

Check/call. I hate the river though.

bdk3clash · #4 08-08-2005, 05:26 PM

I tend to bet-fold this type of river but I could be wrong. The thing is I'm often surprised at the cheese (A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and even K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on this board kind of make sense) I get called with with so I just tend to fire away.

If I checked I think calling would probably be incorrect, so I'd rather spend the one bet by leading.

Stoli7 · #5 08-08-2005, 05:33 PM

I go for the check-call.
But preflop I raise.

Buck_65 · #6 08-08-2005, 05:35 PM

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If I checked I think calling would probably be incorrect, so I'd rather spend the one bet by leading.

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You'd rather guarantee that a bet goes in than to allow a check through? Do you really want to spend a bet on this river? I don't get it. I think by checking, there is some probability that villain bets the worst hand assuming you were on the flush/straight/high cards draw and gave up on the river.

Lost Wages · #7 08-08-2005, 05:42 PM

Pretty standard to raise preflop here.

I like check/calling the river. It's looks like he either has a mediocre hand like a weak jack or middle pair that he's just going to call down with or a flush draw. You might get a Jack or Ten to check through thinking that you have a good jack and just didn't like the middle card pairing.

Lost Wages

bdk3clash · #8 08-08-2005, 05:56 PM

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If I checked I think calling would probably be incorrect, so I'd rather spend the one bet by leading.

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You'd rather guarantee that a bet goes in than to allow a check through? Do you really want to spend a bet on this river? I don't get it. I think by checking, there is some probability that villain bets the worst hand assuming you were on the flush/straight/high cards draw and gave up on the river.

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Good point. I think you're right.

wackjob · #9 08-08-2005, 06:31 PM

bet the river. raise preflop.

nervous · #10 08-08-2005, 06:32 PM

I bet the river and was called by AhQh and MHIG.

However, I do think this is a clear check/call situation.