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Old 11-19-2005, 06:05 PM
durrrr durrrr is offline
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UTG would raise with a pocket pair preflop i believe (from what i've seen), and wouldnt valuebet a hand worse than KK on the river im fairly certain. Also i doubt he raises a fullhouse on the turn. On the river 57 is possible, i dont think 79 or 9t pushes, because he'd hope it was good. My reads could be off here...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed)


UTG ($3214)
MP1 ($2463)
MP2 ($1773.50)
CO ($1980)
Button ($1940)
Hero ($3311.60)
BB ($1980)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls $20, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $90</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $80.

Flop: ($220) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $180</font>, UTG calls $180.

Turn: ($580) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $420</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1200</font>, Hero calls $780.

River: ($2980) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets 1734</font>, Hero calls $1734.

Final Pot: $6448


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Old 11-19-2005, 06:15 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
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check call turn, dont bet draw on paired board &amp; wtf is with callin the river?????
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:17 PM
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check call turn, dont bet draw on paired board &amp; wtf is with callin the river?????

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What hand can he have that beats A hi?
The turn bet is probably 50/50 for me- it needs to be done at least occasionally.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:25 PM
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What hand can he have that beats A hi?


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are you serious? so he can only be on a draw or air here?
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:35 PM
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What hand can he have that beats A hi?


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are you serious? so he can only be on a draw or air here?

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no... i think theres a few that beat A hi... but very few. 56h or something like it was a distinct possibility too.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:48 PM
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What hand can he have that beats A hi?


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are you serious? so he can only be on a draw or air here?

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no... i think theres a few that beat A hi... but very few. 56h or something like it was a distinct possibility too.

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Wow, didnt know the 5-10's were so juicy.
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:06 AM
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check call turn, dont bet draw on paired board &amp; wtf is with callin the river?????

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I agree. The way you played it i fold to the turn raise.
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Old 11-19-2005, 08:54 PM
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That river call is chip spewing barring a supergood read.

Everything except smaller diamonds beats you. Reasonable straight draws either got there or paired on the river.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:34 PM
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explain your turn call please
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:04 PM
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Everything except smaller diamonds beats you. Reasonable straight draws either got there or paired on the river.

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How clueless can this post be?

If you know 1 player who is valuebetting a rivered 9 here against a virtual unknown, then show me. I think the last hand i expect to see here is 9T/79.

Once an opponent sees durr make a call like this, then maybe we can start to talk about a very thin value bet, but hardly anyone with a 9 makes this bet, unless they think they are bluffing and on this board that is absurd.

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