6m: Last one today, interesting hand on the turn

[DavidC]

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks?

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Same table, 14th hand.

[2+2 wannabe]

just check/fold - you're not getting odds to chase your 6 outs (maybe 8 if a jack is good), and you're not folding anyone with a club here

[DavidC]

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just check/fold

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Crap. I didn't consider giving myself 6 outs rather than 8. This makes a huge difference!

Thanks.

--Dave.

[USDaniels]

edited for stupidity: Misread this board, didn't see the double gs. duh, that's why it's marked "interesting"

Anyway, as wannabe says, you have to discount to 6 outs for the straights ([img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s are tainted), and even the straight might already be beat. I wouldn't give the J more than one out (if that). IF everyone is in this pot and it's one back to you, you have the odds to call to 6 outs (assuming you win at least one more bb on the river), but only if you aren't already beat.

Is there such thing as Clarkmeister outs?

[LoaferGee12]

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just check/fold

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Crap. I didn't consider giving myself 6 outs rather than 8. This makes a huge difference!

Thanks.


--Dave.

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Even if it was 8, there is no reason to bet here against 4 opponents. You will rarely take it down given the nature of this board.