Was I cheated on PokerStars?

SynSid · #1 07-11-2005, 06:00 AM

It's a perfectly valid tactic - whether or not it was an appropriate one to use here is hard to tell without more information (in particular, how the 2nd place stack is playing).

I've folded AA to a push from a short-stack before on the bubble in a tournament. Taking his small stack was worth far less to me than another round or two of taking blinds off the rest on the table. I was the big stack by a mile on the table (not the biggest stack in tournament though) and the rest of table were just trying to fold their way into the money - in that situation bursting the bubble is the last thing I wanted to do.

If the big stack in this game was convinced the 2nd stack was just trying to fold his way to 2nd then keeping the short stack alive could well have made sense. Looking at the stack sizes I'm not at all convinced it was a good choice by him even then - but there's no reason to assume it was cheating.

K C · #2 07-11-2005, 06:14 AM

There's no way this is a +EV move. The advantage of having the smaller stack around would be for exactly this sort of situation - they tend to overplay out of desparation and it's easier for a big stack to win money from a small stack than a medium one. With that said you're not really going to get a better situation than calling 40 chips all in to win 1200.

On the other hand, this isn't a clear enough case of collusion to take action against any of the players, so I'm afraid you're out of luck there. I'd alert Stars for sure though anyway.

KC
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xLukex · #3 07-11-2005, 07:17 AM

Are you guys serious? Look at the odds...he should call with any 2 every time.

This is not a strategic move at all, and I have not the slightest idea how you can call it that.

Chances are, he is just an idiot.

"I think I will pass up these chips and give this small stack a chance to double up a few times..."

No.

mackthefork · #4 07-11-2005, 07:41 AM

I use it but not in this spot, having 2 very short stacks leaves 2nd place guy in no mans land, if he ever tries to come into a pot, he's gonna need to win to money, because I'm all in, and he's got to weigh up the advantage of doubling up against his already virtually guaranteed second place finish. You really can make a lot of chips, I just don't see folding for 40 getting 16-1 as right, it raises questions that cannot easily be answered.

Regards Mack