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12-14-2005, 02:54 AM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
We are essentially just debating a read here right? Jason thinks he is a tight/passive PF player with relatively static raising standards.
You belive he is capable of making adjustments based on position and table texture. I guess the real thing to be debating is where the information for your read came from...ie what have you observed? Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read. 
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12-14-2005, 03:39 AM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
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Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read. [/ QUOTE ] Where did you get the impression that a 13/8 is unduly tight with his PFR standards after a limper?
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12-14-2005, 11:59 PM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
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[ QUOTE ] Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read. [/ QUOTE ] Where did you get the impression that a 13/8 is unduly tight with his PFR standards after a limper? [/ QUOTE ] I was just wondering what specifically made you think that he was not.
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12-15-2005, 11:54 AM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read. [/ QUOTE ] Where did you get the impression that a 13/8 is unduly tight with his PFR standards after a limper? [/ QUOTE ] I was just wondering what specifically made you think that he was not. [/ QUOTE ] 8% PFR was enough, for starters. I also took a shot at thinking that a 13/8 might actually be capable of thinking about the game beyond just the cards he's holding, since he appears capable of at least some thought.
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12-15-2005, 08:24 PM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read. [/ QUOTE ] Where did you get the impression that a 13/8 is unduly tight with his PFR standards after a limper? [/ QUOTE ] I was just wondering what specifically made you think that he was not. [/ QUOTE ] 8% PFR was enough, for starters. I also took a shot at thinking that a 13/8 might actually be capable of thinking about the game beyond just the cards he's holding, since he appears capable of at least some thought. [/ QUOTE ] No, where did this read come from? [ QUOTE ] but my read is that he's aggro and decent but overaggro in the wrong spots and definitely capable of realizing his position and concepts like isolation etc) [/ QUOTE ] Why do you believe he is "definitely capable". I mean you bolded the words, so there must be some specific instance that jumps to your mind that makes you this sure. I am just wondering what made you sure enough to bold your words as if there can be no doubt about this read.
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12-15-2005, 08:28 PM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read. [/ QUOTE ] Where did you get the impression that a 13/8 is unduly tight with his PFR standards after a limper? [/ QUOTE ] I was just wondering what specifically made you think that he was not. [/ QUOTE ] 8% PFR was enough, for starters. I also took a shot at thinking that a 13/8 might actually be capable of thinking about the game beyond just the cards he's holding, since he appears capable of at least some thought. [/ QUOTE ] No, where did this read come from? [ QUOTE ] but my read is that he's aggro and decent but overaggro in the wrong spots and definitely capable of realizing his position and concepts like isolation etc) [/ QUOTE ] Why do you believe he is "definitely capable". I mean you bolded the words, so there must be some specific instance that jumps to your mind that makes you this sure. I am just wondering what made you sure enough to bold your words as if there can be no doubt about this read. [/ QUOTE ] My read came from watching him for an hour. Jason's read came from playing with him for an hour and having 2300 hands on him. He had never played with him before. I had no stats but had watched him make a few raises, usually after the limper, and he had played some of those hands quite aggressively (one appeared to be a flush draw that he played quite aggressively after raising preflop, being 3-bet by the SB, calling, then raising after the limper folded on a two rag (372) two club board). I felt that given what I had seen, he seemed very capable of raising to isolate and playing aggressively. For all I know he could have been getting good cards, etc., but reads are reads. Rob
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12-18-2005, 05:15 PM
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Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
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My read came from watching him for an hour. Jason's read came from playing with him for an hour and having 2300 hands on him. He had never played with him before. I had no stats but had watched him make a few raises, usually after the limper, and he had played some of those hands quite aggressively (one appeared to be a flush draw that he played quite aggressively after raising preflop, being 3-bet by the SB, calling, then raising after the limper folded on a two rag (372) two club board). I felt that given what I had seen, he seemed very capable of raising to isolate and playing aggressively. For all I know he could have been getting good cards, etc., but reads are reads. [/ QUOTE ] My problem with that statement, which I don't feel has been adequately addressed yet, is that a guy who is very capable of raising to isolate should have a pfr > 8%.
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